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A man with a revoked gun license killed his 18-month-old son in Joliet. Here’s how he and thousands of others slipped through the system.
Chicago Tribune ^ | 14 fwb 2020 | Stacy St. Clair, Cecilia Reyes, Annie Sweeney and Sarah Freishtat

Posted on 02/14/2020 11:04:07 AM PST by rellimpank

By the time Christopher Miller showed up at his estranged wife’s backdoor in September 2019 with a pistol in his waistband, state authorities already had declared him too dangerous to own firearms.

He had lost his gun license 20 months earlier after being charged with aggravated battery for brutally beating a man in a Naperville parking lot. He disregarded orders to relinquish any weapons, and no one made sure he complied.

Miller startled his wife that autumn afternoon as she moved around the kitchen making a snack for her daughter. With cocaine and alcohol in his system, he stared at Cassandra Tanner Miller with hazel eyes so dilated they appeared black.

“Are you all ready to die today?” he asked as he suddenly burst into the Joliet house.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba
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1 posted on 02/14/2020 11:04:07 AM PST by rellimpank
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In the meantime CCL renewals are running 90-120 days.

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2 posted on 02/14/2020 11:06:27 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: rellimpank

Solution———Restrict responsible firearm owners more?


3 posted on 02/14/2020 11:08:03 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rellimpank
The idea that you can keep guns from "bad guys" by restricting gun sales, is a fantasy.

It does not work and has never worked.

In this case, does the writer really believe the murder would have been prevented by the police asking the murderer if he still had his guns?

4 posted on 02/14/2020 11:09:49 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: rellimpank

But....but....we passed a law!!


5 posted on 02/14/2020 11:15:33 AM PST by Veggie Todd (Voltaire: "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool".)
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To: rellimpank

Open warfare on it’s streets, and this is what the Tribune addresses?

This is a one-of type situation. It will be addressed.

How about focusing on the tens of people wounded and some killed each freaking weekend.

This in a city with tough gun control measures in place.

It isn’t working. The Leftist gun grab is broke. Admit it.


6 posted on 02/14/2020 11:16:57 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll < hardly miss it and it will help.)
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-—I skipped my usual “barf alert”—thought I was pretty close to the limit on titles—


7 posted on 02/14/2020 11:17:18 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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mom got it right

“A gun didn’t kill my son,” Tanner Miller said. “A criminal who was not supposed to have a gun anymore killed him.”
8 posted on 02/14/2020 11:23:20 AM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: rellimpank

first off, no citizen requires a license to own a gun, that is Illinois ignorance right there.


9 posted on 02/14/2020 11:24:34 AM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual and political hemlock)
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To: rellimpank

Do they license guns in Chicago?


10 posted on 02/14/2020 11:27:11 AM PST by Brilliant
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Titles no longer require truncating to fit. Guessing the drugs in the assclowns system aren’t being factored in to the event? Good thing he didn’t have an axe or chain saw or something even more dangerouser than a gun.


11 posted on 02/14/2020 11:27:24 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Brilliant

How much money you got? Because who you know and pay could decide if you get a permit.


12 posted on 02/14/2020 11:28:41 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rellimpank

encouraging that focus is drifting more towards hard questions about known felons with guns


13 posted on 02/14/2020 11:31:04 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: stylin19a

guy had a gun he wasn’t supposed to have while on cocain that is illegal, and drunk. Did the ex have a restraining order too? Yup sounds like more gun laws would have stopped this guy.


14 posted on 02/14/2020 11:31:09 AM PST by spudville
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To: Brilliant

Illinois licenses gun owners, not guns per se.


15 posted on 02/14/2020 11:36:31 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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I recall a story up here in the Great White North in which a man in Quebec was given a firearms prohibition order and that his gun collection was supposedly confiscated by police following his being in trouble for violent behaviour towards his wife. A short while later, he marched into the women’s shelter where the wife was staying with a gun that he either borrowed from a friend or that he hid from police and proceeded to shoot her to death in front of the terrified shelter worker.

The columnist (a woman, IIRC) who wrote about this story summed it up as “he didn’t give a damn about the law”.


16 posted on 02/14/2020 11:43:33 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: rellimpank

Remedy for not enforcing existing gun laws on the books......Legislate additional gun control laws.


17 posted on 02/14/2020 11:50:17 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: rellimpank

It would have been so much better if he had used a blunt instrument, knife, axe, fire, his hands etc?


18 posted on 02/14/2020 11:57:13 AM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: marktwain
The idea that you can keep guns from "bad guys" by restricting gun sales, is a fantasy.

That's just not true.

All we had to do to eliminate the scourge of drug addiction and trafficking is to outlaw drugs.

It would be the same with guns.

When, oh when, will we learn?

19 posted on 02/14/2020 12:01:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a mud fence.)
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To: traderrob6

Here in Virginia they are piling on the gun laws but have struck down several proposed laws to increase the punishment for using a gun in a crime.

It’s not about reducing crime.


20 posted on 02/14/2020 12:10:06 PM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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