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Public school district in Arizona REQUIRING parents to sign “safe gun storage” form
mom-at-arms.com ^ | 2/11/2020 | Joe Dana

Posted on 02/13/2020 11:22:17 AM PST by rktman

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To: eyedigress

You are comparing a report card and whether or not daddy has secured guns in the home.


No I am not. As I read it (and I could be wrong), the parent is asked to sign an acknowledgment that he or she received a student handbook that includes a page on safe gun storage—not an acknowledgement that one has guns or that one is storing them in an “approved” manner.


81 posted on 02/13/2020 12:22:10 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: eyedigress

You dont seem interested in an adult discussion.


82 posted on 02/13/2020 12:22:57 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If you can’t figure that out your on the wrong forum.

At what point do you say no to the Nanny State? If your doctor said you had to sign such a form, or worse, so that you could see him or her and get your prescription how would you feel then????


83 posted on 02/13/2020 12:23:26 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page=61)
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To: DesertRhino

That is certainly “mom’s” intent. I dont know that the school board is on board with Bloombergs intent. And you dont either, you are assuming that.


84 posted on 02/13/2020 12:24:43 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

Tell me the fixation with guns in this handbook?


85 posted on 02/13/2020 12:25:33 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: TalBlack

“This will not stand any kind of legal test at all.”

“What grabs me about this story is that so many in what I will call officialdom think they can do ANYTHING they want.”

The knot heads in the educational system become delusional about their power because for the most part they are dealing with kids who can’t or won’t fight back. It’s a real shock to their system when people won’t roll over.


86 posted on 02/13/2020 12:25:43 PM PST by Bayan
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To: rktman

Suck me, Nazis.


87 posted on 02/13/2020 12:27:07 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!z)
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To: DesertRhino

F them!

I’m not even going to let them if and how many or what kind of firearms I have!

Some kids are claiming they can’t read or write in cursive and the freakin’ school wants to get involved in my private life?


88 posted on 02/13/2020 12:27:14 PM PST by David Chase
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To: scripter

The school board or whatever the hell they are have ZERO business knowing anything like that.

They can go pound sand.


89 posted on 02/13/2020 12:31:54 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: eyedigress

Well actually I have it downloaded now. Maybe you should do same and read for yourself.

Short answer is the only form for a parent signature I find where gun is mentioned is a form that says Arizona law sates that parent consent must be provided for the school to ask any questions about a list of item including guns, political affiliations, religion, voting history, and about a dozen other “non-of-your-business” items, which seems like it protects privacy.

Other than that, the mention of guns is limited to school policy, no guns, knives, weapons, etc on campus and the penalty from getting caught on campus with them. This is pretty standard these days.

So how about we stop attacking each other a chill a bit.


90 posted on 02/13/2020 12:33:41 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

We have walked down this libtard road for 50 years.
Look where we are.

The USA is NOT giving up her Freedom.
Our Firearms represent Freedom.
The little marxists at the school can pound sand.

If they want children to know about firearms then have a class on how they work and what they are for.

Most of us got that at home. Fine

Let the schools teach firearm safety.


91 posted on 02/13/2020 12:34:22 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Mr Rogers

This is an extension of “public health” and “public safety” initiatives. Doctors asking if you own guns, for your safety. Schools asking if you own guns and “educating” you on their dangers, for the public’s safety.


92 posted on 02/13/2020 12:34:28 PM PST by tbw2
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To: eyedigress

I agree and I refer you back to may last response, which probably crossed paths with yours.


93 posted on 02/13/2020 12:35:36 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

I replied to what was presented.

Fair Enough.


94 posted on 02/13/2020 12:35:41 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: eyedigress

You asked a question that I answered in #90.


95 posted on 02/13/2020 12:37:07 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: DesertRhino

They have you sign for one reason only. It creates a contract.


I agree with your first two paragraphs. Your last one is somewhat incorrect. I taught in a public school for over 30 years. Nothing you sign from school (except maybe an IEP) is really a contract or binding on you. They’d like you to think so, but it really isn’t true. It is their hope that by waving that signed paper in your face you will back off.

As for the mission creep into homelife—it’s true. But it isn’t always the case that the school is a bunch of busybodies. You should see some of the kids who show up. Unwashed clothes—so now some schools are installing washing machines, unfed—so now schools are expected to provide breakfast, lunch, and in some cases snacks for the evening and backpacks of food for the weekends and of course lunches during the summer.

I’ve had students being raised by grandma or auntie because both parents are in jail/prison. Wolves do a better job of rearing their young. And those kids are sitting in the desk next to your kid. Because of all of this, no wonder public schools are pretty much doomed. I got a fine education in public schools, but that was in the middle of the last century.


96 posted on 02/13/2020 12:37:08 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But why do we oppose providing safe gun handling information?

We don't. But if the school is going to send information on one politically charged topic, how about they send information from multiple viewpoints on multiple topics.

Do you really think they would send out a form on effect home and family defense tactics? Or a form describing ways in which you could prevent young children from being exposed to media content that they probably should not see? Or a form describing ways to protect your kids from radicalization by religious fundamentalists?

97 posted on 02/13/2020 12:37:12 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: ScarletRed

We had two suicides within a week of each other at my kids high school. Obviously there are a lot of parents that are doing a poor job of securing or educating their kids about firearms. The schools have to deal with this all the time not to mention the gang bangers that always carry.


98 posted on 02/13/2020 12:41:15 PM PST by refermech
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To: freeandfreezing

See my #90. You have to download the student handbook to see the reality. Too much speculation raising peoples blood pressure here. Get the facts.


99 posted on 02/13/2020 12:43:04 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor
I wonder if the school is planning on sending out a notice to parents that explains the enhanced risk to children that comes from live in boyfriends, or other situations where non-parents are involved with children.

I doubt it, but there is probably much more data showing that risk than showing a risk due to firearms storage methods.

100 posted on 02/13/2020 12:43:10 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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