Posted on 02/13/2020 11:22:17 AM PST by rktman
PHOENIX — An organization of moms against gun violence is applauding a recent decision by the Phoenix Union High School Board.
The board voted unanimously last week to require the parent or guardian of the district’s 27,000 students to read and sign a gun storage safety form.
"This is just an obvious thing we can do to prevent future tragedies,” said board member Lela Alston.
The "Secure Storage Notification Resolution" requires that gun storage and safety information be included in the student handbook of all 27,000 students of the district's 20 high schools.
The resolution was prompted by the groups Moms Demand Action and Students Demand Action For Gun Sense in America. It highlights how unlocked guns play a prominent role in unintentional shootings involving children, gun suicides and campus shootings.
Phoenix Union Board President Stephanie Parra said the resolution is a small but meaningful step to educate parents.
“From time to time, guns have made an appearance on campuses," said board president Stephanie Parra. “When we speak to moms, often it's because the parent did not properly store their firearm at home.”
(Excerpt) Read more at mom-at-arms.com ...
When my nephews visit, I always lock up my firearms. (They are 21 and 22 but have no real firearm training). That said, that’s my choice. Some idiot school board trying to make me do so? My answer would be NUTS (ref General McAulliffe in WWII).
You’re serious...?
Okay, assuming you are:
Because:
a) It’s not about “safe storage”. It’s about using children to aid in identifying who has firearms in the community,
so that ...
b) Red Flag laws can then be used at a later date to seize those firearms...
and ...
c) so that the children can be ostracized, humiliated, and shamed into accepting that ...
d) guns are evil, and
e) people who OWN guns are evil, and
f) anyone who resists is evil.
Hope that’s clear enough. It’s pretty damned transparent.
“What this does though is create a “legal” binding with the district that parents must practice “safe storage”. What happens if parents don’t? Are they sued by the district? Is their child suspended/expelled as punishment? Will students be able to report to school officials if their parents don’t lock up their emergency nightstand gun and get mom & dad trouble (shouldn’t have taken that Xbox away for not doing homework)? Will a friend visit one of their pals who‘s parents have an antique shotgun on the wall and report it to the district? Well, in their current handbook, students can report it to a teacher/staff member and the staff member can start the paper trail “
As a child I didn’t own a firearm until 13.
My dad had plenty in the front closet, ready to go.
I’ll be damned if he was going to sign anything from a school that talks about that.
This is nothing more than legal posturing designed for school districts to be able to point fingers at parents if/when another school shooting occurs. It does nothing to keep kids or guns safe. It only provides legal cover to the district.
Why we oppose? Because the school has ZERO role in getting into what goes on at home. That needs to be an iron curtain to keep the camel’s nose out. And when you sign the form or don’t sign it... they will roll it out if ANYTHING ever happens at your house to help build a case against you.
This is bullcrap.
But they would NEVER allow the NRA Eddie Eagle program to send home information and demand parents sign it.
This is crap.
That should be the name of a Cougar organization, right?
“It really depends on what the motives here are and how they go about implementing those motives. Hard to assess from just the article. “
Yeah, that’s a real brain teaser what the Bloomberg funded Mons wanting some action group’s motives might be.
I’d put my own questionnaire out to the school:
Which faculty and staff members have ever been arrested for DUI?
Which faculty and staff have undergone background checks to ensure they’re OK working with children?
What drugs are stored in your homes, and are they kept in a locked container?
How many faculty and staff have medical marijuana cards?
Who on the school’s payroll has been accused of domestic violence? Who has had a restraining order against them?
I’m not signing a damned school district handbook either. Send it home and I’ll read it. But no schoolmarm is gonna force me to sign for it. I don’t work for her.
They are there to sign agreements I send them. She has it ass backwards.
That’s how I see it as well and find it difficult to believe any here would disagree.
Dad would sign a letter saying “Little Johnny is allowed to go to the Museum”.
Thats it!
This liberal road of hell has got to stop.
Agree, but very different time now from then. Back then in high school, myself, and many classmates, carried hunting rifles in the car we drove to school so that after school we could go hunting. That’s very different now as well.
We live in a very litigious society now, and for all I know, this is some lawyer idea of reducing liability (and the cost of insurance) by this school council. Again, I am not local so I dont know the motivation.
I understand and also agree with the concern that this would be used to ‘report’ parents somehow, but we all know that all these teachers have reporting obligations with or without this program, so I dont see it any different than those. A system where a student can report abuse of a parent can always be misused even when abuse doesnt exist. So do we not take seriously abuse reports? Of course not. Likewise, if a student goes into school and says “I dont feel safe at home cause my dad/mom has a loaded gun in the living room”, well, guess what, the result will be the same whether a safe storage program exist or not. This way, at least a less educated parent has been made aware of the situation and a visit from the sheriff or social services is avoided.
Similar, maybe. He approves of the "signature Requirement" portion.........do you?
However, with that being said, I went to the article and didn't find anywhere that the form was required to be signed and returned.......
Oh, I agree the ‘mom’s wanted more. What I am not convinced of is that the schools response wasn’t reasonable given ‘mom’s” desires.
To answer your question. No. I do not with any signature requirement. The school board works for the tax payer. Not the other way around.
I do the same when the neighbor kids come over. Otherwise, my house, my locations for placement. As usual situational awareness counts.
How about if the school sends home a lawyer letter (that’s what this is) and you have to sign promising to never exceed the speed limit and to never text while driving.
Then when you get in a wreck after a text, they make sure the prosecutor gets a copy of it, with YOUR signature.
Nothing that happens at home is the teacher’s business, unless the urchin comes in with a black eye and a belt buckle shaped bruise on the legs.
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