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Is The Coronavirus A Bioweapon?
Epoch Times ^ | 7 Feb 2020 | Steven W. Mosher

Posted on 02/09/2020 10:41:46 PM PST by datura

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To: familyop

Very interesting. Temps in Southern China reach 40 in the summer, humidity off the charts. (Damn I hate going there in the summer...)


21 posted on 02/09/2020 11:45:59 PM PST by datura
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To: datura

Re Gen Shihbo and his “ethnic bioweapons targeting” concept.

This might be based on an old Sci-Fi book about a Red Chinese attack on the US and the resistance to it by a group of American scientists. They find a bacteria/virus that attacks a gene (or something related to it in the blood) that was particular to the Chinese.

By making this into a weapon, it defeated the Reds. By the way, as I recall, the Commies in the story were using biological weapons against prisoners in gulags that would kill them by the thousands.

IF I FOUND THE BOOK’S TITLE, I’LL POST IT TO THIS COMMENT.


22 posted on 02/09/2020 11:57:16 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Heavily related.

https://youtu.be/DqktTyDJt1g?t=19


23 posted on 02/10/2020 12:00:40 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Vendome

This is also called, “Grasshopper”. Green comes from Creme did Menthe
24 posted on 02/10/2020 12:03:19 AM PST by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: BigEdLB

My Mom drank those in the 70’s...

At one time, they sold grasshoppers and other mixed drinks in 1 pint milk cartons.

She loved anything sweet...


25 posted on 02/10/2020 12:10:19 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: datura

I agree. The ramifications would just be too damning if it were confirmed.


26 posted on 02/10/2020 12:21:51 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Jonty30
Not just that it's killing Asians, it's killing native Chinese. That makes one think that what is happening is the result of a forced vaccination program of a totalitarian state. That's why they knew to quarantine everyone immediately; everyone (but only they) is susceptible and totally vulnerable.

This is like an international political thriller combined with a mass extinction event. Trying to create the combination of 1) making themselves solely immune from the bioweapon and 2) simultaneous immolating their society.

27 posted on 02/10/2020 12:25:36 AM PST by Squeako (You can lead a progressive to water, but can you make him drown?)
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To: Karl Spooner

Is that a Alex jones channel on Youtube? Or someone posting there? Either way it’s interesting


28 posted on 02/10/2020 12:28:03 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: datura; Vendome; Widget Jr; All

Is The Coronavirus A Bioweapon?


I seriously doubt it. *If* so, it would be one of the least effective bioweapons ever developed.

So far, less than 2% of verified cases result in death. Reported deaths involve mostly already unhealthy and old people, not what would be the preferred target of healthy military aged. Many (if not most) people have relatively mild symptoms. The high number of mild symptoms may significantly reduce the fatality rate calculation, as there may be many with mild or no symptoms of persons that are never even tested to confirm infection.

This Wuhan coronavirus is very similar to the SARS coronavirus which was much more lethal. Makes NO sense to bioengineer a less effective virus as a weapon.

Link to a good Science News article via outline.com:

https://outline.com/gm64Mh


29 posted on 02/10/2020 12:42:09 AM PST by Synthesist
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To: Synthesist

That is another good point against the man made conspirac- I mean arguments. While it is more contagious than SARS, it is not particularly lethal.


30 posted on 02/10/2020 12:46:47 AM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Vendome
It is indeed a variant of the cold.

And, we are told that the Chinese are lying with the ~500 deaths, but we are then told that according to some other (most reliable) Chinese insiders, that there are 100,000 or 500,000 deaths and they are the ones to believe.

In the last 3+ months, there has been 1 person who died outside China.

A person.

Does this apocalyptic hollywood zombie virus know how to heed roadblocks? To stay put?

Why does China prevent travel of who know how many millions? Why did they shut down Tiananmen square with tanks? Why do the y censure the internet in their country? Why do they harvest organs from political prisoners? Because they are a communist dictatorship and they can. It's all about saving face to them.

1 death outside censured China.

1.

And that was in the PI.

Notice anything in common?

Both are 3rd world health care systems. No coincidence.

Keep an eye on this latest version of the decades old coronavirus? Yes. Especially if your immunocompromised. Panic? No.

On a, long, tangent. There is only 1 thing that could cause trouble for Trump's reelection. A tanked economy. Now, I'm not referring to his core base. I'm talking about the "independents" and "blue dog" dems. If the hysteria causes the market to tank...and for govt's to take drastic actions due to that public hysteria, the economy could take a major hit just in time to erase the economic successes Trump has gained. This could prove to be the only legitimate challenge to his reelection.

Trump himself, just the other day said he believed China is doing fine with the situation (paraphrasing). Is he lying too? Are we now not supposed to believe Trump?

Outside China...1 death.

1.

31 posted on 02/10/2020 12:46:55 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The paperback SciFi book I want is buried in a box among about 1000 other books and reports. Not a chance in hell that I can find it immediately. Just tried.

However:
*possibility it was entitled “600 Million to One” or something like that. There was a WW2 ppb about a downed pilot who landed on an island in the Pacific occupied by thousands of Japanese soldiers and how he survived with the help of native islanders. It might be a book entitled “6,000 or 60,000 to 1”.

***HOWEVER, I found a great precursor to the Red Chinese claim about a “genetic warfare weapon”.
July 1988, “Soviet Active Measures in the Era of Glasnost”, US House of Representatives, hearing Mach 8, 1988, Charles Z Wick, Director USIA (a successor testimony to the earlier “Covert Action” hearings a couple years earlier.

In this report is (subjects of Soviet disinformation/programs are organized by time/subject) a section entitled “The Ethnic Weapon” that starts out saying:
“Since at least 1980, the Soviet press has been circulating claims that the United States is conducting research on or has developed a so-called “ethnic weapon,” which would kill only non-whites.”

... “Chronology”.... page (p. 15)

- “May 26, 1980: The official Soviet communist party newspaper PRAVDA charged that a U.S. naval laboratory in W est Oakland ‘was engaged in developing bacteriological means capable of affecting certain groups of people belonging, for example, to a particular race,’ claiming that “the U.S. military department conducted trials of ‘ethnic viruses’ in California in 1977”.

What followed was pages of examples of Soviet ‘ethnic warfare’ disinformation stories mainly concerning Latin America and the Middle East, published in both legitimate and KGB-funded papers. The articles also included Israel and So. Africa as countries developing ethnic weapons for use against non-white peoples.

Hope this helps understand what the Red Chinese are doing, just resurrecting old KGB disinformation lies.


32 posted on 02/10/2020 1:01:57 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

A similar thing was done to smear Steven Hatfill in the Amethrax investigation- a seed was planted in Red Flags Weekly by either Meryl Nass or a hag named Roseberg claiming he had been involved in Rhodesian use of anthrax against blacks. Nancy Pelosi and Conyers jumped on that bullcrap like chickens on a June bug.

Meryl Nass was a traveler to Cuba and in addition to her campaign against the anthrax vaccine for US troops she also pushed her belief that the US created some kind of bioengineered weapon to cause blindness among Cubans. It was probably something Castro dreamed up to cover up blindness caused by a poor diet of rice and little else under his mismanagement of the Cuban economy..


33 posted on 02/10/2020 1:15:27 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Jonty30
I think the fact that, even after three months and it now having gone global, that 99.9% of those being infected and dying are Asians would suggest an engineered weapon and not nature or wet market.

Why in the world would the Chinese design a virus to kill only Asians? Unless you are suggesting that someone else created it and released it in China?
34 posted on 02/10/2020 1:20:39 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

Think Taiwan.


35 posted on 02/10/2020 1:21:22 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Jonty30

OK, but even the Chinese couldn’t be stupid enough to think that a virus specific to that demographic wouldn’t jump to the mainland. They would have to be crazy.


36 posted on 02/10/2020 1:24:46 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: Synthesist

I don’t think it is a bioweapon either but if you were going to create a bioweapon you don’t need it to be lethal, if it’s lethal you would not get as much bang for the buck since the dead are not that big a burden. What you would aim for is a weapon that makes people very ill, too ill to work or to fight- but does not take away the hope of recovery. You just need it to incapacitate the victims to burden those who are healthy with tending to vast numbers of sick patients, and you need it to be known to be nonlethal so that stressed caregivers do not give up and drop the burden of tending to the ill, yet bad enough that victimes must be tended. That way you force the enemy to commit much of his resources, transport, food, etc., to the task- resources he cannot use against you.


37 posted on 02/10/2020 1:30:19 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: fr_freak

I can only say that it was engineered. I cannot say as to why it was released.


38 posted on 02/10/2020 1:36:04 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: BenLurkin

Me thinks the globalists see their utopian dream maybe coming to an end, time for a global crisis where they will be there to save us all


39 posted on 02/10/2020 2:04:22 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip .com)
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To: datura

How many people will have to be crushed until enough bodies are built up to enable them to reach their masters?


40 posted on 02/10/2020 2:20:40 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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