You BET there are alternatives. There are alway alternatives...
Posted on 02/03/2020 4:37:28 PM PST by bobk333
“They told us that the patient from China did not appear to have any symptoms.” Afterward, however, RKI and the Health and Food Safety Authority of the state of Bavaria did talk to the Shanghai patient on the phone, and it turned out she did have symptoms while in Germany. According to people familiar with the call, she felt tired, suffered from muscle pain, and took paracetamol, a fever-lowering medication.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencemag.org ...
Haunting footage taken by Australian rollerbladers show the empty streets of Wuhan in the days before they were evacuated to Christmas Island
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7963081/Australian-rollerbladers-streets-Wuhan-evacuated-Christmas-Island.html
US health experts to join fight in China as virus shows no sign of slowing
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/509447
Coronavirus could spread explosively, tight control needed
By Dr. Liji Thomas, MD
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200203/Coronavirus-could-spread-explosively-tight-control-needed.aspx
Self-containing yourself from human-to-human transmission of novel coronavirus
http://www.arirang.com/news/News_View.asp?nseq=251831
Travis AFB chosen as one of 4 sites to house coronavirus evacuees during quarantine period
https://www.thereporter.com/2020/02/03/travis-afb-chosen-as-one-of-4-sites-to-house-coronavirus-evacuees-during-quarantine-period/
Coronavirus: Evacuated Indonesian travellers sprayed down after leaving Wuhan
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/02/coronavirus-evacuated-indonesian-travellers-sprayed-down-after-leaving-wuhan.html
I think they generally address it as the flu as you say, or complications related to the flu.
In the 80s they were addressing a number of the deaths from AIDS to be something else. The something else would be a complication related to, but the related to part was sometimes left out for family peace of mind.
What the report to the CDC may have been, I would imagine was more related to AIDS, at least I would hope so. Numbers are important when it comes to disease.
I have not indepently verifed the following info. part of the article
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/4-plagues-are-marching-across-asia-simultaneously-coronavirus-african-swine-fever-h5n1-bird-flu-and-h1n1-swine-flu
The coronavirus outbreak that is raging all over China right now has been making headlines on a daily basis all over the globe, and rightly so. At this point we don’t know if it will ultimately become a horrifying global pandemic that will affect tens of millions of people, but what we do know is that the virus spreads very easily and the number of cases has been rising at an exponential rate. Meanwhile, three other plagues have also been marching across Asia, and most people in the western world don’t even realize that this is happening. What I am about to share with you in this article is quite chilling, and the months ahead will be very dark if these plagues continue to spread.
Long before we ever heard of this new coronavirus, African Swine Fever was devastating pork farms from one end of China to the other. There is no vaccine for “pig ebola”, there is no cure, and once it hits a farm the only thing that can be done is to kill every single pig so that it won’t spread anywhere else. But even though draconian measures have been implemented, it has just kept spreading, and at this point “about two-thirds of China’s swine herd has been lost”…...
American Flu cases for Our Flu Epidemic: 2019/20:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm#Limitations
I saw a table that showed no one under the age of 15 had gotten this virus.
Yes, but emphasis on it is too early to be certain of ANYthing including this article.
Infectious Disease ping.
I saw today IIRC an 11-year-old and a 2-year old had caught it, might’ve been in another country.
I’ll try to find the link.
well ..there went that table...but it was from chinese data anyway..so worthless
You BET there are alternatives. There are alway alternatives...
The problem is, people lie for very selfish reasons with no thought of the consequences for others.
Sometimes what we do can be a matter of life and death for others.
When my kids were very little (some 25 years ago), during VBS one year, one mother brought in her little boy and dropped him off in the nursery while he was sick.
I don’t remember the timeline but someone noticed he felt hot and the mother admitted that he was sick when she brought him.
In any event, EVERY kid who was in the nursery, plus their siblings later on, came down with it.
When I think of the illness those families had to endure and the medical bills for doctor visits and medicines that we all had to shell out because of one thoughtless, RUDE, selfish woman, it still makes my blood boil.
It was also a very eye opening experience as to how fast something can spread and how ONE sick person can infect so many.
Bring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.
What's *that* tell you?
That tells me that it is FAR, FAR more serious than we are being told.
In case you’re getting too comfortable and overconfident:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon
Let’s hope, but there are enough cases where this has happened, that I am skeptical. Not just China cases but Germany, Japan, and Canada.
Not sure if this can be 100% established yet but I do believe those 2% fatalities are the very young, those with compromised immune systems, including those over 65, and of course, the elderly in general because many were smokers and some still are. What kills a person who gets this virus is pneumonia when it settles in the lower lungs. Smokers and ex-smokers have compromised lung function. I’m at ex-smoker myself.
It’s not an automatic death sentence for those at risk. Quick and correct treatment can fight this with a patient willing to their part by fighting hard as well.
The common yearly flu kills 80k people a year. This is just a stronger flu than we normally get.
Yep.
Canned corn
Canned green beans
Canned refried beans
Canned black beans
Canned white potatoes
Canned chicken, tuna, salmon, corned beef
Lots of white rice in glass jars and mylar pouches with oxygen absorbers and desiccants.
Canned fruit
Canned other stuff....
Canned goods are cheap and easy.
You get the picture. Boring? Yes. Nutritional & filling? Yes.
If you believe you are going to need foodstuffs with longer shelf lives than canned goods, you need to buy LOTS more ammo and learn how to hunt and dress game....and hope you don’t get shot in the woods by the other thousand people hunting the rapidly disappearing game at the same time.
If you have got food etc to last 2-3 months you’re as good as it gets. Because after that, if order isn’t restored, all bets are off. You are much more likely to die of other things than hunger.
PS I have only one medicine that I can’t live without and I keep 15 months supply on hand at all times. I paid cash. No insurance company can tell me I am only allowed 30 or 90 days supply. They can only say they won’t pay for it.
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