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Are the Democrats Completely Screwing This Up?
Rolling Stone ^ | Feb 2, 2020 | Andy Kroll

Posted on 02/03/2020 10:59:02 AM PST by edwinland

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The DNC’s rules backfired spectacularly

In late 2018, DNC Chairman Tom Perez unveiled the revamped rules for the upcoming Democratic primary debates. Perez pledged that the DNC’s debate rules would “give the grassroots a bigger voice than ever before” and “put our nominee in the strongest position possible to defeat Donald Trump.”

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But a year later, what’s beyond a doubt is that they did not empower the grassroots and they replaced old gatekeepers with new ones.

Because of these new rules, the most powerful people in the primary up to this point have arguably been the pollsters.

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For the past year, campaigns lived and died by the latest Quinnipiac or Fox News or CNN poll; journalists built devoted followings around reporting on polls and interpreting the DNC’s obscure guidelines for which polls did and didn’t count toward the debate. And for voters, polls came to represent — rightly or wrongly — a proxy for viability, strength, the ability to beat Trump.

The DNC also required that candidates meet a threshold of individual grassroots donations to make the debate stage. Candidates and staffers say they understand why the DNC used this metric as a stand-in for grassroots support, but they complained that the donor requirement — like the polling threshold — gave a leg up to candidates who already had high name recognition and a preexisting network of small-dollar donors to draw on.

Candidates without both of those qualities entered the race at a disadvantage. Instead of spending money to build a field operation in Iowa or make an early play for California’s delegates, campaigns spent money to buy email lists to fundraise off of in order to meet an arbitrary donor target.

(Excerpt) Read more at rollingstone.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nomination; screwup
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Lot's to barf at in this article from the folks who brought us the libelous UVA article.

BUT it's a great exploration of how planners make rules expecting humans to act one way, and then they act a totally different way and the rules end up screwing everything up rather than achieving their desired result.

The lesson the Democrats will take from this is that they need to make better rules next time.

The lesson that they should but won't take is that free people are unpredictable and so you should make rules of behavior based on principles rather than outcomes. But if they believed that, they'd be Republicans.

1 posted on 02/03/2020 10:59:02 AM PST by edwinland
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To: edwinland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDfAdHBtK_Q


2 posted on 02/03/2020 11:01:16 AM PST by BipolarBob (Just imagine the /s after everything I post and we'll all be happier.)
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To: edwinland

Well, yeah. DemocRATs/Liberals/Commies screw up everything that they come in contact with. There are no exceptions to this Golden Rule. From a block of granite to a wet dream, these people can and will screw it up. It’s who they are and exactly what they do.


3 posted on 02/03/2020 11:07:42 AM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: edwinland
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
― Napoleon Bonaparte
4 posted on 02/03/2020 11:09:58 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: edwinland

Democrats could screw up a one-car funeral. They are not known for high organizational skills.

But man, are they good at passing the buck.


5 posted on 02/03/2020 11:11:02 AM PST by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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“And for voters, polls came to represent — rightly or wrongly — a proxy for viability, strength, the ability to beat Trump.”

Right, because the polls worked so well in 2016...


6 posted on 02/03/2020 11:11:41 AM PST by Boogieman
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BUT it's a great exploration of how planners make rules expecting humans to act one way, and then they act a totally different way and the rules end up screwing everything up rather than achieving their desired result.

"Everybody's got a plan -- until they get punched in the face." -- Mike Tyson

7 posted on 02/03/2020 11:15:55 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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"Are the Democrats Completely Screwing This Up?"

Maybe, if the Republicans don't manage to somehow screw things up even worse...

Keep tryin', though, Dems -- we're pulling for ya!

8 posted on 02/03/2020 11:18:49 AM PST by DJ Frisat ( (optional, printed after my name on post))
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But what does electability look like? Is it experience? Policy plans? Charisma and confidence on the debate stage?

There is, of course, the option of looking at people who actually got elected. Starting out with the premise that Trump's election was somehow illegitimate is exactly the wrong way to go, as is the premise that he won because his voters were stupid, racist, and contemptible. The author seems to get a glimmer, and then maybe not:

A fixation on the spectacle of Donald Trump blinded us to the tectonic changes in American culture that delivered Trump the presidency.

Yes, and those changes were? Nobody looked - what they did do was:

There was a brief period of hand-wringing. There were pledges to get out of our coastal bubbles and reconnect with Middle America. But this largely meant seeking out Trump voters in Rust Belt diners — that is, applying the old model of doing things to a new reality.

Connecting with prospective voters is never a change in any political paradigm. The change in the Democrat approach has been actively repelling them through tribal disdain and cultural arrogance, and they never got that because they're still at it. I have a modest suggestion to the hand-wringers and navel-gazers on the Left: drop the habit of cursing the country for a litany of stale sins and insisting that the only solution is an authoritarian government under the guidance of a self-proclaimed elite. Recognize that it's failed politics and move on.

9 posted on 02/03/2020 11:20:16 AM PST by Billthedrill
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He obviously wrote this article before Team Trump totally annihilated the House managers in their closing argument.


10 posted on 02/03/2020 11:21:23 AM PST by jersey117
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Are the Democrats Completely Screwing This Up?

Depends on what "THIS" is!

11 posted on 02/03/2020 11:23:35 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Stupid is as stupid does.


12 posted on 02/03/2020 11:24:18 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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Democrats cheat.

They WANT to change the rules halfway through the game - - all games, any game. They hate game rules that make them lose. Remember all their howling about the electoral college? After Hillary the witch lost, democrats decided the ‘old rules’ weren’t fair. It should have been ‘popular vote’.

Democrats have been cheating for decades, changing rules after the fact when they think those rules won’t let them win... if this tactic has just come to the awareness of journalists then I’m speechless.


13 posted on 02/03/2020 11:28:51 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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“Because of these new rules, the most powerful people in the primary up to this point have arguably been the pollsters.”

In any system there’s always the powerful and the weak. The idea of “evening the playing field” is a fool’s errand.


14 posted on 02/03/2020 11:29:04 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: edwinland

I frequent some Bernie sites. They are all energized as Bernie is peaking in the polls at just the right time.

If Bernie loses the nomination....right or wrong....hook or crook....they will burn the DNC down and the party will take a generation to recover.


15 posted on 02/03/2020 11:30:08 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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The daily assault of terrifying Trump headlines. The endless partisan combat in Congress. The toxic conversations on social media. Felt the urge lately to hurl your phone into the nearest body of water after it lit up with the latest push notification from the New York Times? You’re not alone.

Going into the 2020 primaries, Democratic voters are fueled by the most primal of emotions: fear and anger. Fear and anger about the state of the nation, the conduct of the president, the blind loyalty of Trump’s Republican allies, and the uncertainty of what comes next."

Meanwhile, next door in the Trump camp, everyday politics on television is like a joyous circus finale. Colorful, fun, balloons, loud music, sad clowns, beautiful ladies, dancing bears, people zinging overhead on trapeze, confetti cannons going off.

Seriously, politics has never been this fun. Ever.

16 posted on 02/03/2020 11:32:25 AM PST by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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To: edwinland

I read the article. I need a shower.

But thanks for posting. It is fantastic to see the DNC Elite Strategists “think” they know where they are failing while simultaneously proving they are still stuck in a bubble.

Also, did you notice how the article implicitly adopts the media as an ally against Trump and how they need to change the way they report in order to help the democrats? LOL! But they also miss that completely as one of the problems CAUSING the division in this country. “How is the next Democrat president going to unite this country after all the division Trump has caused?” - What?!!


17 posted on 02/03/2020 11:38:39 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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Trump knew how to “play the media” to eliminate the Establishment Media’s support for the Left. No wonder why CNN and MSNBC are not doing well overall.


18 posted on 02/03/2020 11:42:38 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Tenacious 1

Great insight about the media being the PR wing of the DNC. Since I totally already assume that to be true, I hadn’t noticed that they were accidentally but quite explicitly admitting it.


19 posted on 02/03/2020 11:42:46 AM PST by edwinland
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As gramps would say: They’d mess up a steel wall with a rubber mallet.


20 posted on 02/03/2020 11:43:45 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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