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Wuhan Coronavirus Looks Increasingly Like a Pandemic, Experts Say
New York Times ^ | Feb 3, 2020 | Donald G. McNeil jr

Posted on 02/02/2020 8:44:49 PM PST by 11th_VA

The Wuhan coronavirus spreading from China is now likely to become a pandemic that circles the globe, according to many of the world’s leading infectious disease experts.

The prospect is daunting. A pandemic — an ongoing epidemic on two or more continents — may well have global consequences, despite the extraordinary travel restrictions and quarantines now imposed by China and other countries, including the United States.

Scientists do not yet know how lethal the new coronavirus is, however, so there is uncertainty about how much damage a pandemic might cause. But there is growing consensus that the pathogen is readily transmitted between humans.

The Wuhan coronavirus is spreading more like influenza, which is highly transmissible, than like its slow-moving viral cousins, SARS and MERS, scientists have found...

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; ccp; china; chinavirus; coronavirus; pandemic; wuhan
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To: palmer

The serious illness we saw with H1N1 was ARDS caused by the virus. We could treat bacterial pneumonia’s easily and still ended up with very sick people on ventilators. Antibiotics are likely not the answer here


81 posted on 02/03/2020 5:38:07 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: tatown
the true CFR at a fraction of what the media (and many on here) keep hyping.

So there's two ways to look at it. Using the snake analogy, the world's most deadly snake (kills the most people) is only fatal in 10% of the people it bites; but because it's so aggressive, it's the #1 killer.

82 posted on 02/03/2020 5:39:53 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: Mom MD
Thanks for that info. What was the typical outcome after that?
83 posted on 02/03/2020 5:43:19 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: palmer

I can’t remember If we had any deaths at my place. We did have several people with extended time on ventilators and very prolonged rehab afterward.


84 posted on 02/03/2020 5:49:50 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: 11th_VA
I suspect the Slimes have found this outbreak as a new way to attack Trump .
The impeachment is dead .
I wish a quarantine had been implemented last week .
We gave all these Chinese Typhoid Marys time to use
fever suppressants and invade here for our hospital care .
That Chinese student in the Boston hospital appears to be a prime example of
planned slide in to the US already infected .
He needs to be jailed if they had the guts to investigate the matter.
85 posted on 02/03/2020 5:50:16 AM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalist)
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To: palmer

At one point we had someone on a vent in every ICU room we had except one. As I recall ICU rooms were short all over the city


86 posted on 02/03/2020 5:51:13 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: 11th_VA

What do you guys think? You honest thoughts on this. Is it going to spread and turn into a major crisis in the United States? If you think not I would want to know the reasons why. I’m hoping not, but worried.


87 posted on 02/03/2020 5:54:35 AM PST by GulfMan
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To: NorseViking

Time to remember the Spanish flu. It wasn’t awfully long time ago. Wiped out as much as one in five in some countries.

The Spanish flu:
a) had nothing to do with Spain
b) killed more people than all the guns, bombs, shells and gas of WWI


88 posted on 02/03/2020 5:55:25 AM PST by samtheman (Trump Campaign Ad (hopefully): Look at Virginia. Look at NY. What Democrats do.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Why are they going so crazy over this? They don't over the flu...

Because a core group of officials in the Chinese Government believe this virus escaped from a bioweapons laboratory in Wuhan and they are terrified of the potential consequences.

89 posted on 02/03/2020 5:55:53 AM PST by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: 11th_VA

What if..... a virus was engineered to be highly communicable with a low mortality rate was released with the purpose of building up herd immunity against other, more lethal viruses? Asking for a friend.


90 posted on 02/03/2020 5:59:24 AM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: Mom MD
Thanks again for the info.
91 posted on 02/03/2020 6:01:10 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: BobL

I think I may have already had it.

Unbelievable congestion with overflowing phlegm for two solid months. No virus ever sticks with me for that long.


92 posted on 02/03/2020 6:03:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: semaj
What if..... a virus was engineered to be highly communicable with a low mortality rate was released with the purpose of building up herd immunity against other, more lethal viruses? Asking for a frien

Oh, so, you mean, like. a public immunization program that is even more dishonest than the ones we already have?


93 posted on 02/03/2020 6:04:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: 11th_VA

Yes and as I explained in my comment using actual data, influenza is 4x - 8x more deadly.


94 posted on 02/03/2020 6:17:45 AM PST by tatown
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To: BobL
The time for quarantines and cutting off China was 3 weeks ago, and at this point, there shouldn’t even be any flights from Asia.

Three weeks ago there were under 70 cases. Making such a decision then would have been ridiculous. They did not have any idea what the R0 rate was until a week ago. Now it appears R0 is 2.5 among Asians but much lower among other races. You don’t cry fire in a crowded theater before you even smell smoke much less see flames.

95 posted on 02/03/2020 6:20:29 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: RummyChick

I think hot toddies (and cold) may be how the Brits once overtly (now more covertly) came to rule the world.


96 posted on 02/03/2020 6:22:00 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: DannyTN
But the flu is widespread right now...

They guessed wrong on the influenza mix last year for the immunizations. It’s always a best guess. . .

97 posted on 02/03/2020 6:26:44 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: CJ Wolf

https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/uk-teacher-claims-he-beat-coronavirus-with-hot-whisky-and-honey/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter


98 posted on 02/03/2020 6:27:24 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Fai Mao

That’s a very sad story. Poor man.

It would get some in a family and not touch others.


99 posted on 02/03/2020 6:52:22 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: GulfMan
Is it going to spread and turn into a major crisis in the United States?

Nobody knows. We'll know a BIT more in the next 10 days, based on what happens in China. I wouldn't worry, but I wouldn't be complacent either.

You are at a higher risk, if your are older and have any kind of compromised organs (COPD, Heart issues, etc).

Using the Spanish Flu as an analog, the Spanish Flu actually struck in four waves - the third wave was the most lethal, as it had morphed into a more deadly strain.

It could go away for a few months (Spanish Flu did this), then return; or go away and never return like SARS - that's one big unknown, we just don't know.

Using one other analogy, the Spanish Flu was like 'mass shooter'; the virus spread very quickly and killed withinh hours.

This virus is more like a sniper; there's a long latent period between transmissions, and it can take weeks before a patient dies, if you happen to be in a susceptible category.

Good Documentary on the Spansih Flu

100 posted on 02/03/2020 6:54:51 AM PST by 11th_VA
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