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China Coronavirus Could Trigger Pandemic: Harvard Epidemiologist
vision times ^ | 02/02/2020 | Staff

Posted on 02/02/2020 12:45:59 PM PST by winoneforthegipper

Harvard epidemiologist and health economist, has warned that the Chinese coronavirus spreading fast throughout the world could turn out to be a major pandemic.

The academic quoted a study showing that the basic reproduction number of the infection (R0) is 3.8. By contrast, the seasonal flu attack in most years only has an R0 of 1.28. The 2009 flu pandemic had an R0 of 1.48 while the catastrophic 1918 Spanish flu that infected 500 million people worldwide had an R0 value of 1.80.

The viral infection “A 99% quarantine lockdown containment of Wuhan will not even reduce the epidemic’s spread by even 1/3rd in the next 2 weeks. Thus, I really hate to be the epidemiologist who has to admit this, but we are potentially faced with… possibly an unchecked pandemic that the world has not seen since the 1918 Spanish Influenza. Let’s hope it doesn’t reach that level but we now live in the modern world with faster (travel) than 1918,” Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) said in a series of tweets.

Feigl-Ding also quoted a study by a scientist from the Imperial College of London in which the R0 value is shown to be 2.6, which, while lower than the other study, was still “extremely bad,” he said. In another series of tweets, Dr. Ding points out that the new coronavirus is an RNA type, meaning that the viruses have RNA as their genetic material rather than DNA. This basically allows the virus to have a high mutation rate, enabling it to change properties quickly.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; chinavirus; coronavirus; wuhan
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Some strong wording. Not sure the hype level here but food for thought.
1 posted on 02/02/2020 12:45:59 PM PST by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper

This could rival Legionnaires Disease.


2 posted on 02/02/2020 12:50:10 PM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: winoneforthegipper

I don’t believe Harvard about anything


3 posted on 02/02/2020 12:56:09 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“Feigl-Ding “ and the one from Thailand: “Kriangsak Attipornwanich. “ How do they come up with these names? They sound comical, almost phony.


4 posted on 02/02/2020 12:59:09 PM PST by Fungi
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To: winoneforthegipper
Harvard epidemiologist and health economist, has warned that the Chinese coronavirus spreading fast throughout the world could turn out to be a major pandemic.

And only a tenured professor at Harvard could come up with that hypothesis /s/

5 posted on 02/02/2020 1:01:34 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: winoneforthegipper

The first mistake is admitting this comes from Harvard.


6 posted on 02/02/2020 1:06:16 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Isn’t Dr Eric Ding a $oros associate?


7 posted on 02/02/2020 1:07:30 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: winoneforthegipper; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Welcome to the party, pal!

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

8 posted on 02/02/2020 1:08:03 PM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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Old news, completely superseded by later events.

This came out even before the original CDC press conference last Tuesday.

Let alone before news of the use of anti-flu and anti-HIV drugs to clear a patient of the virus in 48 hours in Thailand.

9 posted on 02/02/2020 1:08:17 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Fungi

“Feigl-Ding “ and the one from Thailand: “Kriangsak Attipornwanich. “ How do they come up with these names? They sound comical, almost phony.”

I almost expect a quote from “Dr. Slartibartfast”


10 posted on 02/02/2020 1:10:41 PM PST by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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"I almost expect a quote from “Dr. Slartibartfast”

He's expected to give out the fear porn awards, later.

11 posted on 02/02/2020 1:15:20 PM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: winoneforthegipper

The heck they say!

Rilly?


12 posted on 02/02/2020 1:16:52 PM PST by Black Agnes
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In the last four days, 2019 nCoV cases outside of China have grown by these rates:

01/28 00.00% 087
01/29 20.69% 105
01/30 12.38% 118
01/31 29.66% 153
02/01 15.69% 177

That spike on the 31st may have been a reporting lag as much as anything else. The day before was quite low.

One person has died outside of China. That’s a 0.565% mortality rate.

As of last night, the mortality rate for all documented cases was running at 2.094%.

As of last night, the recovery rate for all documented cases was running at 2.324%.

The recovery number today has already jumped by 103 cases. That’s a 30.29% plus jump in recoveries since yesterday.

I have run the numbers, and obtained the data to work with over the last four days here:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


13 posted on 02/02/2020 1:18:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll < hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

From Hahvad?

Wouldn’t be trying to create a self fulfilling prophesy now would he?

Nah, why would a Liberal do that?


14 posted on 02/02/2020 1:20:20 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: Fungi

Sum-Ting-Wong with those names...


15 posted on 02/02/2020 1:23:01 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: yldstrk

But you would be singing it from a high tower if some conspiracy bloggist said it.


16 posted on 02/02/2020 1:28:54 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: grey_whiskers

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/health/coronavirus-pandemic-china.html#click=https://t.co/leVVAcaTm7

Try them.

If you are trusting anything coming out of China in as far as statistics then you are sincerely being chicken little’s long lost cousin...the ostrich.


17 posted on 02/02/2020 1:33:41 PM PST by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: carriage_hill

Berry Wong....too much dim sum....


18 posted on 02/02/2020 1:34:36 PM PST by Fungi
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To: carriage_hill

Sum Ting Wong.

Ah Chu.

Ho Lee Fuk.

So Long Xi.


19 posted on 02/02/2020 1:39:58 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Fungi

How Anglo of you.

Seriously. You need to get out more.


20 posted on 02/02/2020 1:58:06 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (The Eloi unexpectedly protected the Morlocks from rogue Eloi as they themselves prepared to be eaten)
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