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As New Coronavirus Spread, China's Old Habits Delayed Fight
New York Times, via MSN ^ | Feb., 2020 | Chris Buckley and Steven Lee Myers

Posted on 02/02/2020 7:21:32 AM PST by libstripper

Link only. Article won't excerpt, a common problem with MSN reprints.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; communism; coronavirus; kag; maga; trump
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Sounds l lot like the way the Soviet Union dealt with Chernoble. Also no mention of the rumored biological weapons facility that's alleged to be near Wuhan.
1 posted on 02/02/2020 7:21:32 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Interesting 10-day image at this link. (I don’t know how to post pics)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Alexau29245465/status/1223432276953812992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1223432276953812992&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.investmentwatchblog.com%2Fnever-in-our-lifetimes-have-we-seen-them-take-such-drastic-action-against-a-virus-outbreak%2F


2 posted on 02/02/2020 7:24:14 AM PST by HollyB
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To: libstripper

When they come up with a virus that finally works the way they want it to, it’ll be “your family can have the vaccine but only when you turn in your guns.”


3 posted on 02/02/2020 7:26:26 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: libstripper

China reports 9,692 cases and 213 deaths (2.2% death rate) associated with this virus as of Jan. 30. The SARS (severe acute respiratory distress syndrome) coronavirus epidemic of 2003-2004 was reported to have infected 8360 with 764 deaths (9.1% death rate). That is 4-times less risk for death, so what is all this panic about? The fearmongering is rampant. Public health officials say “better safe than sorry.”


4 posted on 02/02/2020 7:29:36 AM PST by all the best (You)
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To: reasonisfaith

Yep.


5 posted on 02/02/2020 7:30:25 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Finding the right virus is the means.

Taking away guns, and making hundreds of billions in the process, is the end.


6 posted on 02/02/2020 7:30:46 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

That, or a year after we’ll realize the birth rate has crashed 90%.

(insert pic of grinning bill gates holding the vaccine ampule)


7 posted on 02/02/2020 7:30:53 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: libstripper

This is a few days old now, but a very interesting interview of two Chinese political analysts on how the Chinese government have handled this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBxZ1XIYmGc


8 posted on 02/02/2020 7:33:41 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: all the best

“The fearmongering is rampant. Public health officials say “better safe than sorry.”

While I generally agree with you there are some differences.
SAR was hard to get. This appears to somewhat more contagious.

While I don’t buy into the “100,000 dead in Wuhan” hype I do think the totals are being fudged downward by the government. The fact they are quarantining new areas is disturbing.

A 2.2 -2.0 deathrate in a disease that everyone gets is a pretty big problem


9 posted on 02/02/2020 7:34:24 AM PST by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: libstripper

300 word excerpt:


[WUHAN, China — A mysterious illness had stricken seven patients at a hospital, and a doctor tried to warn his medical school classmates. “Quarantined in the emergency department,” the doctor, Li Wenliang, wrote in an online chat group on Dec. 30, referring to patients.

“So frightening,” one recipient replied, before asking about the epidemic that began in China in 2002 and ultimately killed nearly 800 people. “Is SARS coming again?”

In the middle of the night, officials from the health authority in the central city of Wuhan summoned Dr. Li, demanding to know why he had shared the information. Three days later, the police compelled him to sign a statement that his warning constituted “illegal behavior.”

The illness was not SARS, but something similar: a coronavirus that is now on a relentless march outward from Wuhan, throughout the country and across the globe, killing at least 304 people in China and infecting more than 14,380 worldwide.

The government’s initial handling of the epidemic allowed the virus to gain a tenacious hold. At critical moments, officials chose to put secrecy and order ahead of openly confronting the growing crisis to avoid public alarm and political embarrassment.

A reconstruction of the crucial seven weeks between the appearance of the first symptoms in early December and the government’s decision to lock down the city, based on two dozen interviews with Wuhan residents, doctors and officials, on government statements and on Chinese media reports, points to decisions that delayed a concerted public health offensive.

In those weeks, the authorities silenced doctors and others for raising red flags. They played down the dangers to the public, leaving the city’s 11 million residents unaware they should protect themselves. They closed a food market where the virus was believed to have started, but didn’t broadly curb the]


10 posted on 02/02/2020 7:35:19 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: all the best

It is now 14,500 cases and 330 deaths.

By Tuesday it will be 20,000 cases and 450 deaths.

40,000 And 900 deaths by the weekend.


11 posted on 02/02/2020 7:35:39 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: HollyB

12 posted on 02/02/2020 7:37:07 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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Wow.


13 posted on 02/02/2020 7:40:45 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist communists) "Love you to death".)
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This link is to a dynamic map showing flu infections over time (you can choose which flu season you want to view). It’s from the CDC. Be sure to click play.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm


14 posted on 02/02/2020 7:50:14 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: libstripper
Good article...thanks for posting. If "auto-excerpt" won't work, you can always cut and paste parts of the article. That is always a much better way to do it as you can cut out the unrelated garbage and do some editing to get to the meat of the story.
I extracted and summarized some of the key points and timeline from the article. This illustrates how the authoritarian / totalitarian control of the communist party prevents the free flow of information in China. Doctors are threatened with arrest if they discuss health threats!
12/30/19 - A mysterious illness struck seven patients at a hospital. Doctor Li Wenliang wrote in an online chat group to his medical school classmates trying to warn them: “Quarantined in the emergency department”

12/30/19 - In the middle of the night, officials from the Wuhan health authority summoned Dr. Li, demanding to know why he had shared the information.

1/2/20 - the police compelled him to sign a statement that his warning constituted “illegal behavior.”

1/7/20 - Zhou Xianwang, mayor of Wuhan delivered his annual report to the city’s People’s Congress. He promised the city top-class medical schools, a World Health Expo, and a futuristic industry park for medical companies. Not once did he or any other city or provincial leader publicly mention the viral outbreak. It was China’s political season, when officials gather for annual meetings of People’s Congresses — the Communist Party-run legislatures that discuss and praise policies. It is not a time for bad news.

1/17/20 - “Stressing politics is always No. 1,” the governor of Hubei province, Wang Xiaodong, told officials, citing President Xi’s precepts of top-down obedience. “Political issues are at any time the most fundamental major issues.”

Imagine being a doctor and getting midnight raids demanding to know why you shared an alert about a contagious disease? Compelling doctors to sign statements about their "illegal behavior." Or the communist "political season" demands that no bad news be released and everybody pretending that all is sunshine and roses? It sounds like "the revolution is always about the revolution." No wonder the Chinese lost control of this thing.

Will we next see the Red Guard forcing Dr. Li to publicly admit his guilt in sending that social media message about the nascent disease...


15 posted on 02/02/2020 7:54:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: libstripper

There’s a lot of deflection of blame towards local officials in the government’s narrative. Except in China, top level local leaders are not local. In order to retain central control and prevent local leaders from cultivating power bases that might feed separatist tendencies in times of turmoil, senior officials are not only helicoptered in from other provinces, they are also rotated periodically in order to prevent them from going native. This is how the Chinese empire has been held together for thousands of years. The regimes change, but the methods remain the same. These “local” leaders will quite literally call a deer a horse, if told to do so by Xi Jinping.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao#Calling_a_deer_a_horse


16 posted on 02/02/2020 7:55:17 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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So it is basically doubling every two days


17 posted on 02/02/2020 8:24:48 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Guns up . . . We cominÂ’ PS: Eric The Blower Ciaramella. PASS IT ON)
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To: libstripper
These lying evil commie savages .
They have kept WHO from coming in .
They did the same for Sars .
The Virus Stats are probably LIES.
WHO nor CDC are there.
The Commie elites shut off Beijing weeks ago.
They intentionally push there citizens to flee to the West for treatment
thus acting like TYPHOID MARY .
Notice how all the sick in the WEST are Chinese people who ignore exposing people and got on flights and then raced to our hospitals a day after arrival .
The Boston University student is exhibit A in this behavioral. Numerous Chinese citizens were caught taking temporary fever suppressants to lower detection ,
These Chinese need to be charged for evading a quarantine and spreading this virus .
We need to make them examples .
18 posted on 02/02/2020 8:38:42 AM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalist)
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The worst habit, that is contributing to the Chinese death rate is the prevalence of smoking.
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Many older Chinese are not very healthy to begin with.
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The next worse habit is a result of communist state control. They fever screen and send everyone, most of whom have other winter-type illnesses, to a clinic where they can now catch this new bug.
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Clinical insanity.... They need to calm down and keep everyone with any symptoms or exposure in their own homes.
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19 posted on 02/02/2020 8:43:22 AM PST by gandalftb
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I thought “China’s old habits” the headline referred to were sneezing and coughing without covering their mouths, spitting, hocking and blowing snot rockets all over—to the point where sidewalks are slick. Those definitely delay fights against any viruses.


20 posted on 02/02/2020 8:48:40 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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