[libstripper]

Sounds l lot like the way the Soviet Union dealt with Chernoble. Also no mention of the rumored biological weapons facility that's alleged to be near Wuhan.

[HollyB]

Interesting 10-day image at this link. (I don’t know how to post pics)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Alexau29245465/status/1223432276953812992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1223432276953812992&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.investmentwatchblog.com%2Fnever-in-our-lifetimes-have-we-seen-them-take-such-drastic-action-against-a-virus-outbreak%2F

[reasonisfaith]

When they come up with a virus that finally works the way they want it to, it’ll be “your family can have the vaccine but only when you turn in your guns.”

[all the best]

China reports 9,692 cases and 213 deaths (2.2% death rate) associated with this virus as of Jan. 30. The SARS (severe acute respiratory distress syndrome) coronavirus epidemic of 2003-2004 was reported to have infected 8360 with 764 deaths (9.1% death rate). That is 4-times less risk for death, so what is all this panic about? The fearmongering is rampant. Public health officials say “better safe than sorry.”

[Jamestown1630]

This is a few days old now, but a very interesting interview of two Chinese political analysts on how the Chinese government have handled this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBxZ1XIYmGc

[Zhang Fei]

300 word excerpt:

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[WUHAN, China — A mysterious illness had stricken seven patients at a hospital, and a doctor tried to warn his medical school classmates. “Quarantined in the emergency department,” the doctor, Li Wenliang, wrote in an online chat group on Dec. 30, referring to patients.

“So frightening,” one recipient replied, before asking about the epidemic that began in China in 2002 and ultimately killed nearly 800 people. “Is SARS coming again?”

In the middle of the night, officials from the health authority in the central city of Wuhan summoned Dr. Li, demanding to know why he had shared the information. Three days later, the police compelled him to sign a statement that his warning constituted “illegal behavior.”

The illness was not SARS, but something similar: a coronavirus that is now on a relentless march outward from Wuhan, throughout the country and across the globe, killing at least 304 people in China and infecting more than 14,380 worldwide.

The government’s initial handling of the epidemic allowed the virus to gain a tenacious hold. At critical moments, officials chose to put secrecy and order ahead of openly confronting the growing crisis to avoid public alarm and political embarrassment.

A reconstruction of the crucial seven weeks between the appearance of the first symptoms in early December and the government’s decision to lock down the city, based on two dozen interviews with Wuhan residents, doctors and officials, on government statements and on Chinese media reports, points to decisions that delayed a concerted public health offensive.

In those weeks, the authorities silenced doctors and others for raising red flags. They played down the dangers to the public, leaving the city’s 11 million residents unaware they should protect themselves. They closed a food market where the virus was believed to have started, but didn’t broadly curb the]

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Good article...thanks for posting. If "auto-excerpt" won't work, you can always cut and paste parts of the article. That is always a much better way to do it as you can cut out the unrelated garbage and do some editing to get to the meat of the story.

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I extracted and summarized some of the key points and timeline from the article. This illustrates how the authoritarian / totalitarian control of the communist party prevents the free flow of information in China. Doctors are threatened with arrest if they discuss health threats!

12/30/19 - A mysterious illness struck seven patients at a hospital. Doctor Li Wenliang wrote in an online chat group to his medical school classmates trying to warn them: “Quarantined in the emergency department”

12/30/19 - In the middle of the night, officials from the Wuhan health authority summoned Dr. Li, demanding to know why he had shared the information.

1/2/20 - the police compelled him to sign a statement that his warning constituted “illegal behavior.”

1/7/20 - Zhou Xianwang, mayor of Wuhan delivered his annual report to the city’s People’s Congress. He promised the city top-class medical schools, a World Health Expo, and a futuristic industry park for medical companies. Not once did he or any other city or provincial leader publicly mention the viral outbreak. It was China’s political season, when officials gather for annual meetings of People’s Congresses — the Communist Party-run legislatures that discuss and praise policies. It is not a time for bad news.

1/17/20 - “Stressing politics is always No. 1,” the governor of Hubei province, Wang Xiaodong, told officials, citing President Xi’s precepts of top-down obedience. “Political issues are at any time the most fundamental major issues.”

Imagine being a doctor and getting midnight raids demanding to know why you shared an alert about a contagious disease? Compelling doctors to sign statements about their "illegal behavior." Or the communist "political season" demands that no bad news be released and everybody pretending that all is sunshine and roses? It sounds like "the revolution is always about the revolution." No wonder the Chinese lost control of this thing.

Will we next see the Red Guard forcing Dr. Li to publicly admit his guilt in sending that social media message about the nascent disease...

[Zhang Fei]

There’s a lot of deflection of blame towards local officials in the government’s narrative. Except in China, top level local leaders are not local. In order to retain central control and prevent local leaders from cultivating power bases that might feed separatist tendencies in times of turmoil, senior officials are not only helicoptered in from other provinces, they are also rotated periodically in order to prevent them from going native. This is how the Chinese empire has been held together for thousands of years. The regimes change, but the methods remain the same. These “local” leaders will quite literally call a deer a horse, if told to do so by Xi Jinping.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao#Calling_a_deer_a_horse

[ncalburt]

These lying evil commie savages .
They have kept WHO from coming in .
They did the same for Sars .
The Virus Stats are probably LIES.
WHO nor CDC are there.
The Commie elites shut off Beijing weeks ago.
They intentionally push there citizens to flee to the West for treatment
thus acting like TYPHOID MARY .
Notice how all the sick in the WEST are Chinese people who ignore exposing people and got on flights and then raced to our hospitals a day after arrival .
The Boston University student is exhibit A in this behavioral. Numerous Chinese citizens were caught taking temporary fever suppressants to lower detection ,
These Chinese need to be charged for evading a quarantine and spreading this virus .
We need to make them examples .

[gandalftb]

The worst habit, that is contributing to the Chinese death rate is the prevalence of smoking.
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Many older Chinese are not very healthy to begin with.
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The next worse habit is a result of communist state control. They fever screen and send everyone, most of whom have other winter-type illnesses, to a clinic where they can now catch this new bug.
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Clinical insanity.... They need to calm down and keep everyone with any symptoms or exposure in their own homes.
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[mikey_hates_everything]

I thought “China’s old habits” the headline referred to were sneezing and coughing without covering their mouths, spitting, hocking and blowing snot rockets all over—to the point where sidewalks are slick. Those definitely delay fights against any viruses.

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Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.