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To: bagster
Kobe Bryant was accused, arrested, and the charges were dropped.
He admitted to consentual sex; it was a grave sin. It seems more precise to label him an adulterer and her a fornicator, and an accused rapist given the case was never even prosecuted, let alone proven. It seems Ben Roethlisberger has a couple of accusations but no charges. Will you call Ben a "rapist"?

Legally, it seems Bryant's adultery was consensual until it began to hurt the young woman who said she told him to stop in the heat of the sinful tryst. Do you agree that any time a woman says "stop" after consent, even if a wife, and the man continues, he is a "rapist"?
150 posted on 01/30/2020 7:15:59 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

That is almost certainly what happened. She withdrew consent mid sex act. Being a young celebrity who had endless groupies he was not able to control himself at that point.

I think an important point here is there are no serial allegations against Bryant. From all accounts he made a mistake and learned from it. I was never a Lakers or “Kobe” fan but I’m not going to judge him based on that one incident.


157 posted on 01/30/2020 7:48:36 AM PST by lodi90
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To: af_vet_1981
Kobe Bryant was accused, arrested, and the charges were dropped.
Yes, I know.

He admitted to consentual sex; it was a grave sin. It seems more precise to label him an adulterer and her a fornicator, and an accused rapist given the case was never even prosecuted, let alone proven.

Here's the thing. I have a brain and I have eyes and ears. I can look at a set of circumstances, statements, and evidence, even if it's only reported, and come to conclusions, just like you can and have. This rapist doesn't have to have his rape proven in court for me to KNOW that he raped this girl.

It seems Ben Roethlisberger has a couple of accusations but no charges. Will you call Ben a "rapist"?

Absolutely. Another rapist.

Legally, it seems Bryant's adultery was consensual...

If you consider kissing, 'adultery'. Once she figured out that he wanted to bang her, by his grabbing at her business, she told him no. She has that right.

Are you trying to tell me that once a man has got his bone on, there's not stopping the fun and that a chick best just strap in and take what's coming to her? Are you really telling me that?

Do you agree that any time a woman says "stop" after consent, even if a wife, and the man continues, he is a "rapist"?

Yes. Especially if she never consented to getting bent over the couch, choked to the point of bruising, and 'entered' as to cause numerous skin breakage open wounds in the vabinal area consistent with forced entry and rape.

Also, explain her blood being on his t-shirt.

Why are you defending a rapist?


177 posted on 01/30/2020 9:52:31 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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