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Aaron apparently doesn't study the Bible as good as he studies defenses. Otherwise he would know God is willing that all should repent. That God grieves over sin, grieved over Israel, grieved during Noah's day, that destroying people is a "strange" act to him. That sin is a virus that must be eradicated from the universe because if all of Los Angeles is saved, Heaven wouldn't be heaven, it would be the hell of Los Angeles.etc. etc. God is love..Love never forces or compels people to repent. Love always allows for choice.
1 posted on 01/23/2020 9:59:49 AM PST by vespa300
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To: vespa300

Yes but just that annoying sales guy from that other insurance company.


2 posted on 01/23/2020 10:01:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: vespa300

Dude’s not a very deep thinker.


3 posted on 01/23/2020 10:03:08 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: vespa300

I don’t care if Rodgers burns in hell.


5 posted on 01/23/2020 10:04:08 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: vespa300

That only happens to pieces of shit like him.


7 posted on 01/23/2020 10:04:56 AM PST by fruser1
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To: vespa300

No Aaron, you condemn yourself.


9 posted on 01/23/2020 10:08:51 AM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: vespa300

Yeah, that Jesus guy being crucified and dying for us is not a discussion item.


12 posted on 01/23/2020 10:11:25 AM PST by Shark24
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To: vespa300

I heard a universalist describe it this way:

God and Satan are coaches of two soccer teams. Angels and demons are the players, and the souls of men are the points. God is willing that he gets all the points.

At the end of the game, Satan wins, 8-2, but it’s ok because God beats him up in the parking lot after the game.

Personally, I’m an adherent of IC. This explains it pretty well:

http://jewishnotgreek.com/


14 posted on 01/23/2020 10:13:08 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: vespa300

Sounds like too many head shots as a QB. Or, is he talking grrrrrreta’s fave subject.


17 posted on 01/23/2020 10:18:26 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: vespa300

Pretty good quarterback. Bad Bible student.


18 posted on 01/23/2020 10:18:35 AM PST by uptowngirl
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To: vespa300

Aardon doesn’t understand that reciprocity, the foundation all justice is built upon, began with the first lesson God taught the Children of Adam. God did and does in fact reject his creation when it turns away from Him.

Story of Cain and Abel is the story of God explaining to His children that there is a thing called justice.


20 posted on 01/23/2020 10:20:11 AM PST by Bayard
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To: vespa300

Cal Berkely worms infecting his brain and soul

Burn, Baby, Burn


21 posted on 01/23/2020 10:20:46 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Guns up . . . We cominÂ’ PS: Eric The Blower Ciaramella. PASS IT ON)
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"... because if all of Los Angeles is saved, Heaven wouldn't be heaven, it would be the hell of Los Angeles.etc. etc. "

I don't get what you're saying there - could you elaborate a little more? Thanks much.

28 posted on 01/23/2020 10:30:13 AM PST by jackibutterfly (A vote for ANY Democrat, whether it be in a local, st or fed election, is a vote against America.)
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To: vespa300

Each individual chooses whether they go to Hell, Purgatory or Heaven.

Jesus dies for our sins on the cross, but we accept Jesus in Baptism by our faith and actions. We choose the ways of the world or the ways of Jesus. We choose sin or not to sin.

Jesus wants us all to be with Him in Heaven, but He gives us free will to accept salvation or reject salvation.

He is a God of Mercy and Justice.


29 posted on 01/23/2020 10:30:58 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: vespa300

I sympathize with the parents. They know what is true and pass that on to their children only to see their children turn their backs on the truth which leads to destruction. Sad.


31 posted on 01/23/2020 10:44:18 AM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: vespa300

According to the Marine Corps Hymn, the streets of heaven are guarded by the United States Marines. But why is there any need for the streets of heaven to be guarded?


35 posted on 01/23/2020 11:00:22 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: vespa300

The difficulty I think many people have is that they erroneously see Hell as Dante described it: as explicit punishment for things done.

I would suggest instead that Hell is rather a response to what those in it continue to be rather than what they’ve done.

A critical Scripture verse for me is that Christ came to destroy the works of the devil, and sin is the devil’s chief work.

So clearly there most be no sinning going on after the judgement, when sin is finally put down, for if any form of sinning occurred some of the devil’s work would remain.

So let me back up a bit...

The Fall did not result in our parents becoming instantly grossly immoral but instead they lost the holiness in which they had been created. It is a lack of holiness, not a lack morality, that is our collective problem at its most fundamental level.

Imputed holiness as we know it now, as opposed to ceremonial holiness from following the Law, is a new-creation thing, and what those who have it do for it is to be born again, receiving to Holy Spirit. It is the Gospel, and the Gospel alone, that is the final answer to the problem that began back in Genesis.

When we saints are resurrected or translated, when this body of death is finally gone, then our nature will only be one that is holy. This will not be like the holiness of our parents because we will have been moral beings (it was knowing both good and evil, not just knowing evil) before we were remade holy and we know the disaster that morality apart from holiness has been.

With a nature that is holy by grace and a nurture that is moral: we will not again walk down this road mankind has been on.

But for those who are finally the lost their only nature is the sin nature. The intensity of that sin nature will vary from person to person in accordance with how they’ve indulged it in this life, but that nature is by then more a what than a do, it is sadly what they are.

So with thoughts like these I’ve looked at what is described as being part of that final state, the worm and the fire, in terms of what the lost finally are and the requirement that there will be no more sinning. As a result the fire looks to me like an external wrath applied to prevent the lost from ever sinning anew and the worm is the frustration felt by the lost because they are prevented from existing as their nature demands.

This opens the possibility that the fire can be applied precisely in accordance with the strength of the individual sin nature, a weak one requiring but so much wrath, a strong one more still. And being prevented from ever sinning anew likewise staves off the damned ever needing worse that they individually were assigned at the beginning ... or such would be my speculation.

In this way I’m troubled more by the way those in our society trying to essentially vomit up the proverbial apple (kudos to Evan Sayet for that line of thinking), to cease from being moral beings at all as if that were possible, than many other things. Because the sin nature is there they will not, as many seem to imagine, somehow arrive at a world that is just and kind but will instead trend to become as bad as bad can possibly be. That in ceasing to be moral and having or accepting any knowledge of the Lord they indeed must end up depraved.

Which probably entirely explains why I see that the sign that is being given to this generation right now is the sign of Romans 1:18-32.


43 posted on 01/23/2020 11:28:43 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: vespa300

From what I gather he’s not a very nice guy, could be wrong, estranged from his family, just things about him seem odd to me


47 posted on 01/23/2020 12:05:56 PM PST by GulfMan
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To: vespa300

No Mr. Rogers... He doesn’t want to condemn the world, He wishes to save it.

He loves us so much that He made it a gift that requires nothing on our part to receive other than acknowledging who He is and what He has done... He loves us so much, He even sent His Sin to die in our place.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son... that whoever should believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.


52 posted on 01/23/2020 12:48:32 PM PST by PigRigger (Satire is near impossible now. Liberals donÂ’t understand it and for conservatives it is reality.)
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When you imply moral superiority over God, the Author of all things and Time itself, by finding fault with His conclusions you have failed the test of humility. In my life there has been one and only one reason I have suffered and believed: Because God knows things I don’t and can do things I cant.


54 posted on 01/23/2020 2:21:35 PM PST by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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