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Senate trial needs witnesses Trump wouldn’t allow in the House, says Durbin
pbs.org ^ | January 15, 2020

Posted on 01/17/2020 7:20:49 AM PST by lowbridge

Many questions remain regarding how the Senate impeachment trial of President Trump will be conducted. Among the points of contention is whether or not witnesses should be called. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., joins Lisa Desjardins to discuss why he believes “you can’t have a trial without witnesses and evidence” and how it’s “no surprise” that most Americans are not following impeachment closely.

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Thank you, Senator, for joining us.

As you just heard, I asked Senator Barrasso, why not plan on calling witnesses now?

I want to ask you the reverse question. Why should you plan on that now? Why not wait to see what happens in opening arguments?

Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill.:

I respect John Barrasso. And I have to tell you, I respect the — have to give a healthy respect and say that I disagree with him when it comes to witnesses.

He said at one point, if they wanted to call the witnesses, they could have called him in the House. No, John, the second count of the impeachment is the refusal of the president to cooperate when it came to discovery of witnesses and documents in the House of Representatives.

So there was no opportunity to call Mick Mulvaney, the president's chief of staff, by the House members who put together the articles of impeachment.

Why do I think witnesses would be appropriate? Because I spent most of my life before Congress as a trial lawyer. You can't have a trial without witnesses and evidence. You can have a cover-up without witnesses, but you can't have a trial.

And I don't think we ought to rule out the possibility that witnesses will get us closer to the truth, whatever that may be.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: durbin; impeachment; trump
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1 posted on 01/17/2020 7:20:49 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
Sen. Dick Durbin

It's amazing how his parents already knew at birth what he was going to turn out to be.

2 posted on 01/17/2020 7:23:29 AM PST by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: lowbridge

We hear ya ‘dick’.


3 posted on 01/17/2020 7:23:30 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: lowbridge

The lies continue.

The proper way to get access to those witnesses was to go through the courts. It’s not a big deal. It’s just a legal proceeding. But the Democrats in the House had to rush the whole thing. They couldn’t be bothered with judges and courts, so they abandoned those potential witnesses and just went forward with what they had — which was nothing.

The Senate should vote based on what the House has provided. Which, again, is nothing.


4 posted on 01/17/2020 7:26:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: lowbridge

Dont you just love how these assholes always flip the problem.

It was the democrats who refused our witnesses.


5 posted on 01/17/2020 7:26:17 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: lowbridge

Democrats could have waited to call those witnesses in the House! No one stopped them.


6 posted on 01/17/2020 7:27:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: lowbridge

No impeachment ever fed a hungry child.


7 posted on 01/17/2020 7:27:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The Senate should vote based on what the House has provided. Which, again, is nothing.

Should, but won't. Mark my words, the impeachment circus will continue in the Senate. A good number of the GOP in the Senate have no fear about removing this POTUS.

8 posted on 01/17/2020 7:27:58 AM PST by CatOwner
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Senate trial needs witnesses the Libs wouldn't allow in House!!!

Clapper, Comey, Brennan, whistleblower/leaker Eric Ciaramella, Joe Biden (because he's on tape bragging about quid pro quo)....

9 posted on 01/17/2020 7:28:06 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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For drooling Democraps who didnt get a tax-paid pen.......

Proceeds from impeachment pens go to the DNC.

10 posted on 01/17/2020 7:30:05 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I wonder what percentage of used car salesmen and ambulance chasing lawyers are democrats. Durban reminds me of those slick tongued lying scum.


11 posted on 01/17/2020 7:30:23 AM PST by DOC44
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To: lowbridge

The President wasn’t “impeached” in the US House of Representatives. He was railroaded by a democrat mob in DC.


12 posted on 01/17/2020 7:32:17 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: G Larry

And add Adam Schiff who orchestrated the entire affair, i.e., the Ukranian hoax.


13 posted on 01/17/2020 7:34:09 AM PST by kabar
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Senator Schmanure praised Nanzi for holding on to the articles (until her personalized impeachment pens were ready).
Schmanure said: "Nanzi's doing a great job. Holding onto the articles will get us witnesses and evidence."

Evidence? Did the Chief House Moron get the elected nitwits to vote to impeach a president without evidence?

14 posted on 01/17/2020 7:34:39 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: lowbridge

STOP OVERTHINKING THIS GOP!The average American couldn’t care less about this. Just end it. Dismiss and let them whine all they want! No one CARES.


15 posted on 01/17/2020 7:38:35 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: lowbridge

The jury isn’t supposed to do the investigating or the prosecuting.


16 posted on 01/17/2020 7:42:04 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: lowbridge

So, DICK, if the Senate trial needs witnesses that were not heard from in the House, then what evidence did the House use to issue their Articles of Impeachment?


17 posted on 01/17/2020 7:47:25 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: lowbridge

Trump needs to turn the tables here and put the Dims on trial. Discover what is truly behind this coup.


18 posted on 01/17/2020 7:48:19 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: lowbridge

Why? The Dems believed that they already had enough evidence to impeach the President. The “evidence” has already been presented. It’s time to take out the trash.


19 posted on 01/17/2020 7:52:50 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: CatOwner
"Should, but won't. Mark my words, the impeachment circus will continue in the Senate. A good number of the GOP in the Senate have no fear about removing this POTUS."

You are sadly correct. They aren't afraid of Trump or the citizenry. They have long ago decided they are our rulers, not our servants. That must change or the American experiment will die.

20 posted on 01/17/2020 8:03:37 AM PST by Truth29
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