Zelensky seeks justice after Iran apologizes for shooting down Ukrainian plane, killing 176 people

Kyiv Post ^ | 11JAN2019 | Brian Bonner

[AdmSmith]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, after Iran admitted shooting down a Ukrainian airline and killing all 176 people on board, called for assurances from Tehran “of readiness for a full and open investigation, bringing those responsible to justice, the return of the bodies of the dead, payment of compensation, official apologies through diplomatic channels.”
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A statement by the Iranian Armed Forces on Jan. 11:
3. In such critical and critical conditions, Flight PS752 of the Ukrainian airlines departs from Imam Khomeini Airport and, while in rotation, is completely approaching a sensitive military center of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps and at altitude and in form of a hostile flight. In these circumstances, the plane was accidentally hit by human error and, unfortunately, which unfortunately results in the martyrdom of dear compatriots and the death of a number of foreign nationals.

4. The Armed Forces staff, while expressing condolences and sympathy to the grieving families of other countries and the apologies for the human error, giving full assurance that the pursuit of fundamental reforms in the operational processes at the Armed Forces level can be repeated. Make such errors impossible and immediately report the culprit to the Armed Forces Judicial Organization in order to deal with any legal errors.
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Ukrainian lawyer and aviation expert Andriy Guck said that Ukraine shouldn’t accept Iran’s “unintentional attack” explanation and demand full admittance of guilt.

“The human error is the reason only for the missile to be fired but it is not the only reason for this disaster,” he said on Facebook. “The investigation must continue and look into such reasons as why Iran didn’t close its airspace, why this plane was allowed to take off from the airport, and how the sides of the conflict failed to guarantee the safety of the civilian flights. These are the duties of the state that they failed to perform, not just the mistakes of certain people.”

Guck cited the lawyers representing Ukraine in international courts against Russia in the case of Russian military shooting down the Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight over eastern Ukraine in July 2014, killing 283 people on board. The Ukrainian lawyers, he said, insist that when military shoot a missile intending to hit a military plane, but at the same time can’t unmistakably discern a civilian aircraft from a military one, such an attack is defined as intentional.

[AdmSmith]

Update on #PS752
1. Ukraine investigation team discovered last night a missile hit cockpit
2. New video shows launch of missile
3. Iran admitted downing by missile
4. Photos show shrapnel damage

https://twitter.com/marcelvandenber/status/1215951568169848832

pictures here https://www.facebook.com/296958677115673/posts/1862699617208230/?d=n

[Samurai_Jack]

I think that now is not the time to try to extract pounds of flesh from the iranians. It will only serve to make them bitter. The downing of this airliner was a careless mistake by a government that had grown incompetent. Trying to drill into them punitively isnt going to serve any useful purpose at this point. I doubt that any fair investigation of the incident will lead to any intentional targeting of non combatant aircraft.

So have your investigation but now is the time to operate in kindness.

[4Liberty]

[AdmSmith]

Agree.

[MAGAthon]

just heard Sky News UK (owned by NBC Universal) presenter say people are asking why planes were being allowed to fly into Tehran airport?

how can they say that. the plane departed Tehran.

there is so much disinformation, you can’t keep track.
some reports saying Irab thought it was a cruise missile. how could that be if it departed Tehran airport?

so many lies and propaganda, I’m not really bothering to watch/listen to it. am watching tennis in Australia instead.

[eartick]

I would like to ask if the earth quakes felt in two different places in Iran the night (am) of the missile attack have been explained. Were they just part of the rumor mill that night?

[trebb]

I can’t see where sanctioning the downing of the plane would make sense - wondering if someone who thought they needed to do much more to retaliate for the dead guy decided to “give things a nudge” without permission...

[a fool in paradise]

Demand that Iran give your nation $150billion. They should have it somewhere.

[existentially_kuffer]

Truly amazing stupidity in blaming the nuts & bolts in the process like the people who pulled the trigger while the whole process is controlled by the religious government. Simple 80/20 is on display. Praying 5x a day should not save a single mullah or the ayatollah.

[Chauncey Gardiner]

Someone was on that plane who had knowledge of Iranian payoffs to Obama officials to get the nuke deal signed, or perhaps Ukrainians who knew details of corruption. The shoot down came at a time when the world was focused on the killing of the terrorist. Does not pass smell test.

[bert]

——payment of compensation,——

Hmmm...... can one squeeze blood from a turnip?

A young and very nervous officer faced with pulling the trigger or getting his ass severely chewed, pulled the trigger. There was not time for rational analysis or asking permission

[a little elbow grease]

Passenger list:

https://twitter.com/Aviation_NewsTW/status/1214881250093125632

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..... have one for Flight 800?

[dp0622]

and how the sides of the conflict failed to guarantee the safety of the civilian flights...

What “sides”.

There was just one.

[RushIsMyTeddyBear]

Bkmrk.

[wiseprince]

Based on what I’ve read sounds like a pretty total and unequivocal açceptance of responsibility. Iran may not be that far off to being open to dialog about other things at this moment. Since they’ve taken responsibility I wonder what their willingly to compensate the victims and generally work through this situation with Ukraine and Canada.

[fidelis]

Yeah, I caught that too. Don’t get us caught up in this, Ukraine. If anything, I would question the judgment of an airline that took off in an airspace whose leaders just announced they were getting ready to launch the Mother of All Retaliations.

[bert]

The larger question is were Canada and Ukraine entities in violation of American sanctions?

Should these entities be brought to heel?

[Mariner]

I do not doubt Ukraine will get what it seeks.

One of the foundations of their regime is to not be uncivilized barbarians like the Sunnis.

They envision themselves better than Arabs.

[Midwesterner53]

So Trudeau, is this still Trump’s fault?

[dp0622]

Yeah that’s not so sharp :)

And not exactly a country that’s gonna go the extra mile to make sure it doesn’t down any civilian planes by accident.