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Tone-Deaf Democrats Risk Handing Western Pennsylvania to Trump
Townhall.com ^ | January 7, 2020 | Salena Zito

Posted on 01/07/2020 4:25:48 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: mewzilla

Much of PA is FDR country. By that, I mean folks vote Democrat just because grandpa voted Democrat. Ask for details, and they’ll tell you “the Democrats are for the working man”. They really don’t see that that hasn’t been true for at least 50 years.

But it’s not hopeless. Those guys went for Reagan. And they went for Trump.


21 posted on 01/07/2020 5:11:47 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: central_va

A fair comment. I think the GOPe is not very different from the Democrats. President Trump, however, seems to focus on the Commoners. I think this is part of why the GOPe has a problem with him.


22 posted on 01/07/2020 5:13:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: cnsmom

Are you really sure though?


23 posted on 01/07/2020 5:14:44 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith,e one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes.


24 posted on 01/07/2020 5:15:15 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith,e one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Trump already won Erie County in 2016, the first time since the 1980s a Republican accomplished that.

He didn’t win the city of Erie but came closer than any Republican has lately, and won every other municipality in the county aside from little Edinboro, home of the brainwashed snowflakes at the local college.

Pretty much the rest of Western PA outside of some Beaver County ghetto areas, the city of Pittsburgh and many of its close-in suburbs, votes Republican for President every time out now anyway. The Democrats’ “War on Coal/Fracking” sealed up whatever was left of ancestrally Democratic rural areas like Greene County.


25 posted on 01/07/2020 5:16:14 AM PST by PermaRag (Want free and fair elections in America again? #OffTheMedia)
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To: Leaning Right

These are the same Dems the left chased out.


26 posted on 01/07/2020 5:16:51 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith,e one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Leaning Right

>>There were many Philadelphia districts that went 100% for Obama. No one bothered to look into this. So it’s going to happen again.

IIRC, there were a few that went more than 100% for Obama..


27 posted on 01/07/2020 5:21:48 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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To: Sacajaweau

We need an evangicals to the polls Sunday’s all through primary and election cycles. Not sure why we give that to democrats.


28 posted on 01/07/2020 5:32:22 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Kaslin

Need to GOTV in Western Pennsylvania to offset Philadelphia where 115% of the population vote Dem.


29 posted on 01/07/2020 5:40:33 AM PST by BobinIL
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To: Kaslin

Democrats in these parts tend to be old school Labor Movement Democrats. Socially conservative, but distrusting of Republicans due to decades of propaganda about them being shills for management and the wealthy.

They are about to experience shock therapy and come to the realization that grandpa’s Democrat Party has abandoned them.


30 posted on 01/07/2020 5:42:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Sacajaweau

Biden does not need Western Penn if he can get out the vote like Obama did. Clinton could not get out the vote.


31 posted on 01/07/2020 5:49:13 AM PST by nwrep
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To: Leaning Right

I was watching a couple of Philly districts come in during the last 3% of the vote. The vote count changed by 5,000 each time. I could tell they miscounted the margin they needed for victory. Turnout will be everything in the middle of the state because they won’t make the same mistake twice.


32 posted on 01/07/2020 6:02:37 AM PST by Varda
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To: Kaslin

Shhhhhh they will hear you.


33 posted on 01/07/2020 6:13:16 AM PST by CPT Clay (Q sent me)
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To: Col Frank Slade

exactly. For as long as I can remember, it’s been called the Republican “T”.


34 posted on 01/07/2020 6:40:01 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Kaslin

“..Biden, the scrappy kid from Scranton.”

The crappy kid from Scranton.


35 posted on 01/07/2020 6:44:08 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Col Frank Slade
Western PA is red outside Pittsburgh.

For the life of me , I can't understand why Pittsburgh is so largely democrap. Big steel is gone, most industries are non-union. The economy now is based on health, science, research, and small businesses.

But the attitude prevails "Republicans is fer the rich people, Democrats is fer da workin' man."

In my area of Mt. Washington, our registration shows that Repubs are outnumbered by about 5 to 1.

In many elections, I don't have a Republican candidate to vote for; I write in my wife.

36 posted on 01/07/2020 7:15:11 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will, I will.)
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To: Varda
I was watching a couple of Philly districts come in during the last 3% of the vote. The vote count changed by 5,000 each time. I could tell they miscounted the margin they needed for victory.

My take as well. Every 4 years it's the "same game" in Pennsylvania. Right before the polls are scheduled to close the Philly TV & Radio media gets a story out that "there remains long lines of voters waiting to vote". Then some ACLU lawyer runs to a state judge asking to "extend the voting hours" to accommodate the voters. "The Game" here is to stretch things out until all the other districts in the state have filed their results so that Philly can file and swing the state result. Hillary's people simply misunderestimated the margin they needed.

With early-voting and absentee ballots there's no need for judges to keep accepting these requests for "emergency orders". Oh, you didn't get to the voting place early enough? Too bad.

37 posted on 01/07/2020 7:52:12 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: Kaslin
At some level, it's difficult to believe that Biden, the scrappy kid from Scranton who has made his political career connecting with working-class voters, would suddenly be so detached from these same voters' everyday realities.

Thats because he is FAR REMOVED from anything Scranton blue collar.

38 posted on 01/07/2020 8:49:15 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Kaslin
I have lived in W PA all of my life and while I was in computer sales many of my friends are Union workers, many retired but many still working.

It is not universal, but most of the union guys/gals I know are Trumpers {some are active but most are undercover}.

The union leaders know that Trump is better for them than any demonRAT, so they soft pedal their pushing of the demonRAT candidate.

Go into the union working bars, hunting and fishing clubs, VETS and firemen clubs and just listen to them talk after they have had a coupla beers.

The truth is Trump is ahead by a 3-2 margin {at least}.

I still don't know about 'suburban women' although my wife and her friends are Trump suburban women, but I have no way to really gauge that segment of the population.

In Westmoreland County, Trump won 63-35 last time and this time he will improve that number.

Washington county is even better, but Allegheny county is where the fraud will occur and depending on how much we can contain that, will determine on how much W PA goes for Trump.

39 posted on 01/07/2020 8:57:06 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: central_va
Unions are tiny part of the electorate. They have little influence except in the minds of the ignorant who like to create straw man arguments.

That statement may be true in VA, but it is pure bullshit in PA.

Union members are great influences in PA because many are parents and grand parents and PA has many people that stay close to home.

Every state is different.

40 posted on 01/07/2020 9:02:31 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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