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After The Boeing Starliner Snafu, NASA Must Rethink How It Does Business
dailycaller.com ^ | 1/3/2020 | Ross Marchand

Posted on 01/04/2020 1:38:27 PM PST by rktman

Over 50 years after the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) landed the first humans on the Moon, the beleaguered agency can’t even pull off basic landings at the International Space Station (ISS) in Earth’s orbit. On Dec.20, 2019, the agency debuted the delayed, over-budget Starliner capsule for a test-run to and from ISS before being deemed ready for ferrying astronauts. But the Boeing-built aircraft couldn’t even dock in the space station due to a system error, instead pointlessly orbiting Earth before landing in New Mexico on Dec. 22. Taxpayers deserve better than billions of dollars of their hard-earned money quite literally going up in smoke.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; dsj02; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; nasa; spacex; starliner; starship; testflight
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Well it did land safely in New Mexico via parachute which is a step bac............ Oh.
1 posted on 01/04/2020 1:38:27 PM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

I find it both sad and amusing that NASA’s decades long work to kill private space flight and willing subornment to do Muslim outreach have resulted in NASA and their favorite contractors being a joke and the private sector delivering as promised.

NASA killed DC-X/Delta Clipper, Rotary Rocket and soooo many other ventures. Screw them.


2 posted on 01/04/2020 1:44:39 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rktman

What good is that money hole called the ISS anyway? All they do is run experiments on things like how bees react to zero gravity. Yeah, that’s very important. Might advance our entire understanding of the universe. NASA needs to return to actual manned exploration of space. Maybe land a science team on Mars for a year.


3 posted on 01/04/2020 1:44:58 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The ISS would likely need to be used as a mustering/assembly point for a Mars mission.


4 posted on 01/04/2020 1:46:28 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rktman

SpaceX has an in flight abort test scheduled in about a week. They’ll be ready to launch a crew in February, but NASA probably won’t let them until this Summer.


5 posted on 01/04/2020 1:52:27 PM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
NASA needs to return to actual manned exploration of space. Maybe land a science team on Mars for a year.

The Starliner fail was not that big, a crew could have corrected it. That said, Boeing is having trouble with software, in this case a timer.

If you want manned exploration, you need to get manned flight restarted. Starliner and Crew Dragon are for that.

6 posted on 01/04/2020 1:56:11 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: rktman

I’m with NASA Administrator Jim “Baby Face” Bridenstine (sp). This “SNAFU” does not represent a setback.


7 posted on 01/04/2020 2:00:04 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

This “SNAFU” does not represent a setback.

You will always find those who go straight to even the smallest problem and try and make a conspiracy story out of it.

This is a small problem that can and will be easily corrected. NASA and Boeing did the smart thing and continued testing through the rest of the mission and all else went great.


8 posted on 01/04/2020 2:04:34 PM PST by oldenuff35
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I doubt it, it is in a weird-ass inclined orbit. Waste of energy to stop on the way to mars


9 posted on 01/04/2020 2:04:54 PM PST by vmpolesov
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To: equaviator

I agree with you, but what ticks me off is that NASA overpaid for a shoddy Boeing design.


10 posted on 01/04/2020 2:05:13 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Well, the Apollo program existed to get a man on the Moon, but it took until Apollo 11 (and a lot of unmanned and unnamed hardware tests prior to that, plus the entire Gemini series of flights) to accomplish that. For a first shakedown mission, I thought it went pretty well.

There is actually a lot of good physiology and psychology data coming from ISS that is needed for long duration outer planet missions that will last years. We are finding permanent and detrimental anatomical and genetic changes in ISS personnel, and there are also a lot of psychological issues during the mission and after the mission that aren’t being talked about openly. These things need solutions.

Other than planting a UN flag on Mars and claiming it to be a weapons-free neutral planet, I don’t see much interest in sending people there when robotic drones seem very capable of doing exploration and have literally barely scratched the surface of what can be learned remotely.


11 posted on 01/04/2020 2:15:24 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: equaviator

The only “setbacks” are with SpaceX. Boeing gets a pass from Bridenstine.


12 posted on 01/04/2020 2:15:31 PM PST by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: Army Air Corps

PING!


13 posted on 01/04/2020 2:16:16 PM PST by KC_Lion
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To: kosciusko51

No such thing as “zero tolerance” in manufacturing and metrology. If just a couple of heads are rolled over this, I’d think it’d be enough to light a Quality fire under their asses.


14 posted on 01/04/2020 2:18:52 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: oldenuff35

Roger copy.


15 posted on 01/04/2020 2:21:30 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

That’s not what I’m talking about. They were over budget and behind schedule. Furthermore, there were better designs by other vendors that were dismissed by NASA to fund the Boeing boondoggle.


16 posted on 01/04/2020 2:21:46 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Kirkwood

The space program was a race to build an ICBM.


17 posted on 01/04/2020 2:24:04 PM PST by Fledermaus (Horowitz was a waste of time and money, Barr and Durham better not be.)
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To: equaviator

I probably should not have used “shoddy”. “Inferior” would have been better.


18 posted on 01/04/2020 2:24:27 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Spktyr

Screw Obama. He was the one who said that making Muslims feel good about themselves was a top priority.


19 posted on 01/04/2020 2:31:43 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: rktman

What, precisely is a system error?


20 posted on 01/04/2020 2:32:16 PM PST by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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