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‘Glass shattering all over my face’: 911 callers describe string of air-gun shootings that damaged 15 cars on I-4
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | January 2, 2020 | Tess Sheets

Posted on 01/03/2020 8:38:00 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: lightman

Or a C-sized battery suspended by fishing line from an Interstate overpass (known to happen in Argentina to stop cars for robbery).


21 posted on 01/03/2020 10:41:17 PM PST by The Duke (President Trump = America's Last, Best Chance)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What can happen when they move up from pellet guns.

Highway sniper scene from the film “Targets” 1968.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnVkK-6sPg


22 posted on 01/04/2020 4:41:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: chris37

You too?!

I have done it twice!


23 posted on 01/04/2020 6:04:34 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: waterhill

I broke my back door and a window in two separate weed eater/ pebble incidents.


24 posted on 01/04/2020 6:18:42 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Living in California in the 2000’s, I had side windows shot out two separate times. The first time the cops couldn’t find who did it (all I had was the place on the street where it happened and it was by a hillside with several dozen homes). The second time I told the cops where it happened, they sent a patrol car and the kids didn’t take the time to look at the whole car as it came down the street. They shot out a police car window. Air soft pellets both times. The kids got caught and the parents had to buy me a new passenger side window.


25 posted on 01/04/2020 6:38:00 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actually, the front windshield is laminated. Two thin pieces of glass with a layer of clear flexible plastic (polyvinylbuterate) sandwiched in between. When not constrained, laminated glass is very brittle and breaks rather easily.

It’s used in the front windshield as a structural member of the cockpit and is constrained by the polyurethane adhesive not only for structural rigidity but also occupant safety to keep occupant in the cabin during a crash.

Because of the easier breakage and the relative inability to cleanly finish the edges (which are weaker) heat tempered glass is used in the sides. Tempered glass is amazingly strong when hit in the field, but very weak on the edges.

(I’ve hit tempered glass with a sledge hammer and not broken it. (the sledge is a hard but large diameter hit. A pellet is small enough to put very directed energy to cause the fracture.)

The nice this about tempered glass is that when it shatters, by design, it breaks into millions of small and safe pieces. The only real injuries are small pinprick type. It doesn’t shatter as much as it imploded and drops harmlessly to the ground.

I think for rear windows, they use tempered because some rear windows are very complex designs and it’s likely easier to manufacture plus maybe the shock of closing rear hatches might be better with tempered.

So, it’s not a surprise that there haven’t been any injuries. You sort of have to work at it to hurt yourself breaking tempered glass


26 posted on 01/04/2020 8:04:13 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: gundog

BBs do not have the mass or velocity of a pellet.


27 posted on 01/04/2020 8:28:03 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

so, on my pump air rifle, with say 10 pumps, a pellet has greater velocity than a BB

I understand the mass but given the same force of air pressure, it seems the heavier pellet would have less velocity

Where V^2 = M/F


28 posted on 01/04/2020 8:37:01 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: GingisK

Add or subtract the the velocity of the target to get the actual velocity.


29 posted on 01/04/2020 9:06:55 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: bert

Pellets also deform very easily.


30 posted on 01/04/2020 9:19:17 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: GingisK

Dead of winter, heat on in the cars. Tempered glass is funny stuff under those conditions.


31 posted on 01/04/2020 9:20:32 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: bert
A pellet has a cone-shaped tail which seals the barrel's clearance with the pellet. That airtight fit, even in rifled barrels, makes much better use of the air pressure. Air escapes around a BB, losing acceleration. I suppose the only way to know for sure is to make measurement with chronograph.

Your equation is rather messed up:

F = m * a; a = F / m (acceleration)
V = a * t; V = F/m * t

I have had BBs guns and pellet rifles. The pellet rifle had considerably more destructive/penetration power. On the other hand, I've never owned a BB gun that could be pumped up like a pellet rifle. I have owned CO2 versions of each; and, pellets always seemed more effective to me.

I searched the Internet for air rifle ballistics. Detailed information seems to be available only for pellets. Maybe BBs are not considered worth the effort of making the measurements, perhaps due to their inherent lack of accuracy.

32 posted on 01/04/2020 9:26:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: gundog

Indeed!


33 posted on 01/04/2020 9:27:20 AM PST by GingisK
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To: gundog

...while BBs bounce off, retaining most of their kinetic energy.


34 posted on 01/04/2020 9:28:35 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

They found rings in the car metal. Should be enough energy to initiate a tiny fracture in tempered glass.


35 posted on 01/04/2020 9:37:10 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: GingisK

As a kid, I was once quite confident that BBs from my shot-out pistol would be harmless after bouncing off the street 60 feet away, so was not worried about the neighbor’s window about 100 feet away. My confidence was ill-founded.


36 posted on 01/04/2020 9:42:02 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: gundog

Dings.


37 posted on 01/04/2020 9:43:23 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: cyclotic

yup


38 posted on 01/04/2020 11:02:02 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GingisK

My Crossman air rifle will fire both pellets and BB’s.

As a practical matter, I shoot only stray cats that hunt birds at my feeders and squirrels that get out of hand. I shoot BB’s at what I think of as half power. The intent is to discourage rather than harm or kill.

However, the info you provided will be useful should the need arise. When pumped ten times the range and accuracy are quite effective.


39 posted on 01/04/2020 12:43:27 PM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: mylife

They hurtle 70 mph down the road partly because they’re REQUIRED to strap their children into special seats, making the adults think that it’s safer to hurtle 70 mph down the road.


40 posted on 01/04/2020 1:40:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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