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1 posted on 12/24/2019 4:50:19 AM PST by grundle
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To Kill a Mockingbird comes to mind.


2 posted on 12/24/2019 4:55:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Nothing really wrong with Mr. Harris letting Mr. Armstrong know that he did not necessarily approve of his actions regarding gender confusion. However, Mr. Harris possibly emphasized his point a bit too strongly for the specific circumstances.

(in other words, he shouldn’t have beaten the shit out of the guy)


3 posted on 12/24/2019 4:58:14 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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He should have gone to trial. I doubt if a jury would have found him guilty.


5 posted on 12/24/2019 4:59:09 AM PST by ryderann
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Harris pleaded guilty to manslaughter.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Big mistake. He could have elected for a jury trial and gotten off.

The right jury would have sent him home to his family.


7 posted on 12/24/2019 5:00:44 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Need some ‘good ole’ boy reasoning.

The molester was found in the river wrapped in chains, and the Sheriff looked around and declared....

Just like old CD, stole more chain than he could swim with.

CASE CLOSED!!


8 posted on 12/24/2019 5:02:22 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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> Harris’s daughter and her friends came out of the store and told him that Armstrong tried to get into his daughter’s bathroom stall inside. <

The daughter was out of the store, and thus no longer in immanent danger. So the father was wrong to attack the deviant. He should have just called the cops, and pressed charges.


10 posted on 12/24/2019 5:03:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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“After getting money from Harris, Armstrong went inside the QT store”

First of several mistakes by Mr. Harris. Like that famous sign in the park: “don’t feed the bears, it only makes them lazy.”


11 posted on 12/24/2019 5:13:32 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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I think people have an unrealistic idea - from the movies - about the kind of punishment a human body can take. I doubt the guy intended to kill, but that’s just how the beating panned out.

Meanwhile, one punch killings in NYC, out of the clear blue, are being punished with a slap on the wrist. One Irishman punches another in Queens. The recipient ends up in the morgue:

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/danny-mcgee-family-laws-one-punch-death
[Last Friday at Queens Criminal Court, O’Brien pleaded guilty and was sentenced to six months in prison. He tearfully expressed his sorrow to the McGee family, and will return to court in January to begin serving his sentence.]

The charge to which he pleaded guilty? Misdemeanor assault. If the case had gone to trial, the perp faced a maximum of 1 year in prison.


15 posted on 12/24/2019 5:22:33 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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I’ve been called to Jury duty twice in the last 6 months. Both times the case has been settled before trial. I hope I get a case like this so I can nullify this BS.


18 posted on 12/24/2019 5:34:22 AM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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None of us was there.


19 posted on 12/24/2019 5:39:55 AM PST by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.l)
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never plead guilty to that... always face a jury... i vote to acquit every time.


20 posted on 12/24/2019 5:44:49 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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Digging just a little, looks like he moved to Phoenix after living in California and racking up a criminal record there (9 months before he was in custody for extradition to California for a $10,000 felony fugitive from justice warrant.)

There's not a lot to rest on here... Confrontation happened after daughter left bathroom, he talked to security about it (who apparently couldn't be bothered to get a no-trespass order?), guy was pointed out by daughter, guy was confronted, non-involved witnesses said attack continued after initial punch, fled scene.

Eight years seems generous.

21 posted on 12/24/2019 5:49:06 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Since the perv actually never touched his daughter, beating him to death was a bit much...

Manslaughter sounds about right....

22 posted on 12/24/2019 5:50:20 AM PST by Popman
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At least he didn’t burn a queer rainbow flag or he’d get life sentence


24 posted on 12/24/2019 6:07:51 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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A convenience store has a security guard?!? And the pervert still managed to get into the restroom with gilrs in there?

Some convenience store. Some security guard. Maybe the father should have met his daughter and her friends at a safer place.


25 posted on 12/24/2019 6:10:54 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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If he’d not pleaded to “a lesser charge” and he’d gone to trial, and I was on the jury, I’d have been hard pressed to convict.

Did he have a lawyer advise him to plead guilty?


27 posted on 12/24/2019 6:42:45 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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You can be sure the judge gave piss poor instructions to the jury regarding statutes on manslaughter. It is also very likely they were not told if the “victim” had other such crimes on his record.

He should have been going home to his family after the trial.


33 posted on 12/24/2019 7:20:43 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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Was there one unisex bathroom. Maybe the victim didn’t realize there was someone in there and was trying to open the door. That doesn’t mean he was attacking the girl.

The defendant was probably charged with 2nd degree murder and offered a plea bargain. If he was convicted of murder, he could probably get life. A jury might convict of manslaughter any way. 90% of cases end in guilty pleas and 95% of civil cases are settled. With the current plea bargain system, the using your right to a jury trial is usually not a good idea.

Plus, a jury might not believe that the victim was really trying to attack the girl.


35 posted on 12/24/2019 7:30:34 AM PST by xxqqzz
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65 years ago, I went with my sister to a Saturday matinee. Some guy tried to fondle my sister. When my dad came to pick us up, we told my dad and pointed out the guy. My father proceeded to beat the crap out of him. The theater manager stopped the fight and called the cops. When the cops got there they put cuffs on my dad. When my sister and I told the cops the story, they took the cuffs off my dad, and the cops began to beat the crap out of the guy. Eventually they took him away.
That was in Hampton Virginia.


42 posted on 12/24/2019 7:52:23 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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He deserves the key to the city.

Thing is he waited too long so it turned into premeditated. Should have gone in and confronted the perv right then and there and he’d never have been sent to prison.


43 posted on 12/24/2019 8:10:31 AM PST by bgill
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