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Donald Trump Issues One of His Greatest Takedowns of Windmills
brietbart.com ^ | 12/23/2019 | Charles Spiering

Posted on 12/23/2019 4:08:19 PM PST by rktman

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To: rktman
Yeah, ten years seems doable. NOT! Consequences if not met? No clue.

For Democrats this is easy: just move the goalposts out another 10 years and keep trying to gain total control over our lives.

61 posted on 12/23/2019 8:04:59 PM PST by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: rktman

I’m also in Nevada, hoping the idiot mandate can be repealed sooner than later.
It will eventually be repealed, or continually delayed, when it becomes impossible to deny that it is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve.

Dare I mention my own support for new generation Nuclear power here tonight?
Saw the shouting match above.
Surprised at it. There have been several threads here and elsewhere examining new nuclear tech that cannot melt-down.
Most are due to designs that require a form of energy input to sustain the reaction.
Power is interrupted the reaction ceases, simple and elegant.
No, I do not have links, but do recall the articles.


62 posted on 12/23/2019 8:06:33 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.


No, I do not have links, but do recall the articles.

I saw pictures of spacemen but no, I do not have them.


63 posted on 12/23/2019 8:11:38 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: palmer

That wasn’t a dream. It was real.


64 posted on 12/23/2019 8:15:12 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: 867V309

44 billion cancer cases would be catastrophic.


65 posted on 12/23/2019 8:15:56 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: palmer


44 billion cancer cases would be catastrophic.

who, besides you, ever said anything about "44 billion cancer cases?"


66 posted on 12/23/2019 8:18:29 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

You did in post 33.


67 posted on 12/23/2019 8:20:10 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: 867V309

https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Generation_IV_nuclear_reactors

The link is one example for your consideration. the situation you describe is from what has been termed a gen 2 nuclear reactor, (three mile island — Chernobel) The reactions that I was describing are not available and already producing, but they are what we must do. The science is moving in this direction and labs and test facilities are up and proving the concepts. The eventual reactors will be small and modular and will probably be located with present reactors as they can be built to use spent reactor rods as fuel — This is the solution to the waste issue which you don’t rasse but is nevertheless a valid point.

But the necessary concept for safety is that the shut down, (I don’t know it the term scram is applicable to gen 4 or not) but the shut down causes the reactor to stop generating heat. (Even total powew loss will result in a cool reactor. Thus the most common form of reactor hazard is gone. Other problems are addressed as well because finally someone thought about engineering the reactor system to actually be safe rather than be safe if the operators don’t make mistakes, because you cannot require operators to not make mistakes, It will never happen, so you have to be safe when the mistakes are made. BTW, we are building gen 3 reactors today and I understand that they have not had any accidents.

I know that the future designs are not build yet, and I hate to say they are ten years away, because we have all heard this forever about fusion systems which are still 30 years away. I will go with gen 4 and follow Mike Shellenberger on twitter for more.


68 posted on 12/23/2019 8:21:51 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: rktman

Liberals want to kill birds. Another reason to hate them.


69 posted on 12/23/2019 8:22:46 PM PST by MarMema (Proud co-pilot for John James)
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You did in post 33.

nope.

I scanned post 33.     of the phrase "44 billion cancer cases" only the word cancer is mentioned.    once.


70 posted on 12/23/2019 8:28:09 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

hey, you’re the one making the claim “meltdown proof molten salt nuclear reactors”

not me


71 posted on 12/23/2019 8:31:03 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

I hear the ‘next generation socialism’ is really great too.
No problems like the previous versions.

Btw, I know first hand how programs deemed to be approved, are forced through regardless of ‘flags’ of concerns. Once a government project is on the tracks, reports ‘must’ support the desired goal.


72 posted on 12/23/2019 8:32:02 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: TianaHighrider

everything nuclear works perfectly.

on paper


73 posted on 12/23/2019 8:34:18 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309; marktwain
Radioactive waste is either very hazardous with a short half-life, or a not very hazardous with a long half life.

nice try. Pu239 plutonium a fission byroduct, has a halflife of 24,110 years.

It has been estimated that a pound (454 grams) of plutonium inhaled as plutonium oxide dust could give cancer to two million people.

Apples and oranges. marktwain is writing about the hazard from ionizing radiation. You can sit next to a chunk of Pu and it will not harm you much from the alpha emission. You'd be better off swallowing a gram of Pu than a gram of arsenic.

You are writing of metal toxicity and alpha emission in the lungs. Pu dust in the lungs is a bad place for alpha emitters, causing radiation induced cancers. Pu is also a toxic metal on its own, able to be taken up by cells.

Now compare Pu to polonium-210 with a half life of 140 days. It too is an alpha emitter, but at a much higher rate than Pu. It also gets taken up by cells, but is not chemically toxic. The alpha emission is spread throughout your body and you die from radiation poisoning.

The best way to get rid of Pu is to consume it in a reactor. But society doesn't want nations accumulating Pu-239. The next best way is to stick in a cask and store underground, the best place would be a subduction zone (but tricky).

74 posted on 12/23/2019 8:43:26 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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The best way to get rid of Pu is to consume it in a reactor. But society doesn't want nations accumulating Pu-239. The next best way is to stick in a cask and store underground, the best place would be a subduction zone (but tricky).

thanks for the elucidation.

like I said "not to mention that we don't know the cost of securing nuclear waste for the next 10-20,000 years because we haven't done it!"


75 posted on 12/23/2019 8:53:10 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 43north

Nuclear is definitely the way to go for clean air, but Trump needs to stay on message and this tilting at windmills isn’t it, the message is the economy and jobs ,jobs jobs-that is how he can get reelected


76 posted on 12/23/2019 9:06:50 PM PST by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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Nuclear is definitely the way to go for clean air...

unless there is another catastrophic event.

then...don't breathe


77 posted on 12/23/2019 9:10:37 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

:)


78 posted on 12/23/2019 9:21:16 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: TianaHighrider

I read your FR page and receive your smiley with humble gratitude...


79 posted on 12/23/2019 9:33:51 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309
Thank you. Guess I am heading to bed since falling asleep here. Wishing you a warm sweet evening and a Very Merry Christmas!
80 posted on 12/23/2019 9:37:06 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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