Posted on 12/23/2019 6:29:00 AM PST by Kaslin
The U.S. owns five territories: Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and American Samoa. The first four receive U.S. citizenship. American Samoa does not; people born there receive a second-class status known as U.S. nationals. Anchor babies get more rights than Samoans do. Samoans cant vote in U.S. elections, they cant run for office and they cant serve on juries. They are prohibited from holding jobs that require U.S. citizenship, and cannot apply to sponsor their relatives for immigration visas. But they pay U.S. taxes. American Samoa is separate from the independent nation of Samoa.
Three American Samoans who live in Utah filed a lawsuit last year against the U.S. State Department challenging their second-class status. A federal district court judge in Utah just ruled in their favor. U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups, who was appointed by President George W. Bush, issued a 69-page opinion where he said, Any State Department policy that provides that the citizenship provisions of the Constitution do not apply to persons born in American Samoa violates the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment states that all people born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens. It was ratified in 1868 to extend citizenship to blacks after the abolition of slavery.
Under Waddoups decision, American Samoans that live in Utah will be able to vote. They will be able to become citizens without going through the long, arduous and expensive naturalization process that foreigners are required to go through, with no guarantee of success. However, Waddoups stayed his decision until it is resolved on appeal. Since there have been split decisions among the courts on this issue, it will likely end up in front of the Supreme Court.
Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is running for president, is currently the most well-known American Samoan. She is a U.S. citizen, however, because her parents are.
The Trump administration should not appeal the decision. It is unfair that this territory has been treated differently. Why should anchor babies get more rights than Samoans? They can be distinguished. Anchor babies are the product of their parents breaking the law and entering the country illegally. Samoans did not break the law. They have been part of a U.S. territory since 1900. Charles Alailima, an American Samoan attorney, observed, Everyone who was born [in American Samoa] after 1900 was born under the U.S. flag owing allegiance to the United States. The three plaintiffs say national status has been a badge of inferiority that perpetuated an American caste system.
The government is taking the position that its up to Congress to fix the problem, since Congress provided for birthright citizenship by statute for the other four territories. But if the national status is unconstitutional, then the courts should decide.
Samoans arent locked into the Democratic Party. Like the other four territories, American Samoa elects a representative to serve in Congress, with limited voting privileges. Amata Coleman Radewagen, a Republican from Pago Pago, currently represents the territory.
The territory has the highest military enlistment rate of any U.S. state or territory. Shouldnt these patriots receive citizenship? Its ironic that they can serve in the U.S. military but not as police officers due to the latters requirement of citizenship.
The Republican National Committee supports equal treatment of the citizens in the territories with citizens in the 50 states. The RNC noted in a recent resolution that American Samoa has not yet petitioned collectively as a people for birthright citizenship. The RNC compares the unequal treatment to the horrible decision in Plessy v. Ferguson, the 1896 Supreme Court decision that upheld racial segregation under the concept separate but equal.
Were not talking a large number of people becoming citizens. American Samoa has around 55,000 people, and over 180,000 American Samoans live in the U.S.
Complicating the problem is the American Samoan government is not supportive of the citizenship effort. This is in part due to the fact that it has customs that could be struck down as discriminatory under the 14th Amendment. The transfer of land to non-Samoans is prohibited, for example. But it sounds like they are not representing the wishes of the people.
Congress could fix this. But it looks like the courts are already on their way.
The Senior Drill Instructor of another platoon in my series was a big ol’ huge Samoan. I was kinda glad I wasn’t in that platoon.
I was lifting in a gym in Hawaii, and some of those dudes are monsters.
Wrong argument. We should do away with anchor babies, which makes that line of reasoning moot.
And, most important of all, they will all vote reliably democratic. Forever.
Correct.
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The only thing bigger than a Samoan man is a Samoan woman.
Don’t expect Nanzi to give up her tuna slaves anytime soon.
Seems to me to be a solution looking for a problem. Let Pelosi have her cheap labor carve out for her fishing cannery. Or is that Feinstein? One or the other anyhoo.
I dont think people who are inhabitants of territories should be US citizens unless they already were US citizens. They should take care of their land and the US can agree to protect it militarily.
That means none of these people should vote in our elections and should not be capable of freely migrating into a US state to vote.
Beat me to the Pelosi connection by one minute....
I dont care how tasty they are, I dont think we should give citizenship to American Smores.
Sure, everybody enjoys the taste of chocolate, marshmallow and graham cracker, but should they.....
What?
An island?
Never mind.
“....Dont expect Nanzi to give up her tuna slaves anytime soon....”
Exactly. The vile demonic Botoxian’s slaves provide millions of dollars in wealth to it’s operations. THAT is why they’ll never see citizenship regardless if they voted communist the rest of their lives. IF they gained citizenship, they’d fall under the U.S. minimum wage laws resulting in the evil Botoxian losing millions in lost revenue due to higher wages and income taxes.
The demonic Botoxian went out of its way to ensure they’d be “exempt” from these very laws. As long as it’s in charge, it will never happens. It’s the typical communist way: “Laws for thee, but none for me”. They’re the ruling elite, don’t ya know? And we’re just the stinky “unwashed masses” that are nothing but cattle to them to be “milked” every April 15th.
Dont expect Nanzi to give up her tuna slaves anytime soon.
My thoughts exactly.
the United States of America is not supposed to have colonies. We need to cut ALL these people loose and let them mind their own affairs. I’m including in that Puerto Rico and Guam. Look how well all their “inclusiveness” has turned out for the Brits.
Why? Or better yet, if we do, then empower them with full unabridged constitutional rights, for them and all territories, etc. That includes, specifically, the 2nd amendment. Make it reciprocal for all US citizens that might visit these locations.
“It’s time to give...”
Why?
Can we send those 180,000 home? Think about it, over 75% of American Samoans have migrated to the US. Who’s left? People too stupid to move or those that kicked everyone else out?
I'm sure there is a historical reason to distinguish between U.S. Nationals and U.S. Citizens, but it is probably past due to close that loophole along with the anchor baby loophole.
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