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1 posted on 12/19/2019 7:51:53 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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I thought burning flags was “political” free speech. Or am I wrong again?


2 posted on 12/19/2019 7:52:38 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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FIFTEEN YEARS?

This is not justice. This is not America. This is the Inquisition.


4 posted on 12/19/2019 7:54:21 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Burning an American flag =”Free Speech” and cannot be hindered.

Burning a queer flag gets a decade in prison?

See, this is why nobody trusts Democrats.


5 posted on 12/19/2019 7:54:36 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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FIFTEEN YEARS?!

The Arab guy who just tried to sabotage a plane to crash potentially killing hundreds (not a hate crime of course) got THREE.

REPEAL all hate crime laws - NOW


7 posted on 12/19/2019 7:55:23 AM PST by Skywise
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“Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, IA...”

I’m betting not ORIGINALLY.

Still, it takes guts to stand up to the Gay Mafia!


8 posted on 12/19/2019 7:56:12 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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Funny...burning an LGBQTLMNOP flag is a crime but burning Old Glory is just another political expression.

How much more of this crap and vomit are we expected to take?

9 posted on 12/19/2019 7:56:43 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP! WWG1WGA)
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Inconsistent laws and sentencing...tyrants.


11 posted on 12/19/2019 7:58:16 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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This person has a legitimate appeal of the sentence based on excessive punishment clause of the 8th amendment. He should sentenced for theft and property damage but not arson nor “reckless use of explosives”.


12 posted on 12/19/2019 7:58:22 AM PST by C19fan
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Yeah, the sentence may be a little harsh. If you want to go out and buy a gay flag and burn it on your property that is fine.
Go on someone else property and burn their gay flag (property); that is arson, so I not going to support his actions.


14 posted on 12/19/2019 7:58:48 AM PST by martinidon
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Fifteen years? What the hell? Did he have a bunch of prior convictions?


15 posted on 12/19/2019 7:58:50 AM PST by Trump20162020
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Elsewhere on this board, a student was arrested for using a "racial slur."
17 posted on 12/19/2019 7:59:07 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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I would have given him the matches!


20 posted on 12/19/2019 7:59:44 AM PST by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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“Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 years for the hate crime of arson and given a year for reckless use of explosives or fire and 30 days for harassment. The sentences are to be served consecutively, Story County court records said.”

This will never stand up on appeal.. No way 15 years for burning a flag????


22 posted on 12/19/2019 8:00:05 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Seems like the sentencing is a hate crime.


23 posted on 12/19/2019 8:00:07 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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Now if some leftist or muzzie took a Vatican flag from a Catholic Church and burnt it does anyone think that individual would get 15 years in prison?


25 posted on 12/19/2019 8:00:25 AM PST by rhinohunter (I am Cristeros)
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He's said he tore down the flag that had been hanging from the United Church of Christ in Ames and burned it because he opposes homosexuality.

So does God.

26 posted on 12/19/2019 8:00:30 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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He destroyed private property. He should face the law.

That said, SURELY the 15 YEARS is wrong. This just can’t be. That is just absurd. Unless he was already on probation for something far worse.


28 posted on 12/19/2019 8:00:57 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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This is a violation of his First Amendment rights. When did burning a flag become “arson” and why isn’t burning the American flag considered “arson”?


29 posted on 12/19/2019 8:01:11 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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Had be purchased his very own rainbow flag, he could have burned it, he would not have been charged. But instead, he stole a flag that belonged to another party.


35 posted on 12/19/2019 8:09:35 AM PST by Meatspace
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The only good live queer is a closeted queer


37 posted on 12/19/2019 8:12:55 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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