Posted on 12/09/2019 6:35:26 AM PST by Navy Patriot
... a close look at unintentional shootings by law enforcement officers, including at schools, raises doubts about whether more guns would help keep students safe.
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Other accidental shootings at schools occurred while officers chased or arrested suspects, taught gun safety classes, or attended school events while off-duty, the AP found. Some injured officers, teachers or students.
One happened the day after the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, when a sheriffs deputy shot himself in the leg while responding to a report of a person with a gun at a school in neighboring Coconut Creek.
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Give all law enforcers night sticks and take away their SWAT toys. The press has spoken.
#canthavenicethings
Great point, Ape Pee. Say, Ape Pee, you don’t happen to have armed security at the entrance to your little newsstand, do you?
In a like manner, should we not ban “journalists” for printing their low-IQ drivel since they have demonstrated an unfailing tendency to lie (either deliberately or by omission), shown an inability to understand science, and have gained a respect even lower than that collection of slime mold otherwise known as congress?
And in other news, the AP found people driving cars have accidents. So the AP would like all cars and trucks banned.
AP = Asinine Propaganda
Give them something other than Glocks..../s
It sure did take them a long time to figure this out. You cant rely on teachers to wield the guns. The Fort Lauderdale shooting shows you cant even rely on the cops.
500,000:1?
How many teacher have accidentally shot someone on school grounds?
ZERO!!!!!
Reflecting back on your school years, how many teachers do you remember who you would trust to handle deadly force, especially in one of today’s disorderly schools full of semi-ferals? I could come up with 1 or 2 out of every 100. Most would be an absolute menace, and much more likely to drop or loose their firearm.
If the concept is arming numerous teachers, I see that as a very bad idea. Stationing a few, highly trained defenders, sort of like “air marshals”, in schools might work. Even at that, there would be massive second-guessing, hand-wringing, and lawsuits if a student were to be shot. Even if the real facts showed it to be justified, I doubt the concept would survive very long.
re: “Reflecting back on your school years, how many teachers do you remember who you would trust to handle deadly force”
Several.
One junior HS teacher was a part time cop out in our township ...
Many of my teachers were WWII and Korea vets.
The statistics show that in general, under shall-issue carry permit systems, that permit holders are both more law-abiding than the police, and considerably less likely to shoot the wrong person.
I’ll grant you that in areas of the country without traditions of private gun ownership that you could easily hit 75%, it’s not so hard a task that it hits 98-99%.
If you can’t find 5-6 members of the staff who can be trusted with a firearm, then there are far worse problems going on.
I leave the range when cops show up to shoot. That’s all I will say at this point.
A CCW is aware that, if he shoots somebody without legal justification, he's in immense trouble. Unlike cops who seem to get away with shooting up the neighborhood without anywhere near the adverse consequences that a civilian would experience.
After a little reflecting, while I was teaching high school, I could have been an armed teacher except that my dress was not well designed for concealment. (and a student took a calculator that was in my briefcase so that is not a good place either.) The best I could come up with would have been a safe in the Math office which was not far from my classroom and might have worked.
However later in my career when I had breathing problems and classes at the University that ended after dark, I would have welcomed a “friend” in my belt for those walks to the parking lot. Again, I believe the classroom should have a concealed safe unless the concealed hand gun on my person was hidden well enough. (My college prof outfit was more covering than my high school teaching days where I also wore a coaches top on many days.)
As to the issue of whether I would have been “appropriate” in the role of defender of my school, Damn right I was, with training and attitude I was a better choice than a patrolling off duty cop who roamed the school somewhere.
I was going to say the same thing. Worst discipline I've ever seen at the range.
Being as I was schooled in the 40's and 50's, pretty much most of 'em.
These statistics have remained constant since the 60's when I became a 2A advocate.
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