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Accidental shootings (by Cops) raise questions about arming teachers
Associated Presstitutes via Yahoo Noose ^ | December 8, 2019 | MARTHA BELLISLE, Urban Combat Expert

Posted on 12/09/2019 6:35:26 AM PST by Navy Patriot

... a close look at unintentional shootings by law enforcement officers, including at schools, raises doubts about whether more guns would help keep students safe.

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Other accidental shootings at schools occurred while officers chased or arrested suspects, taught gun safety classes, or attended school events while off-duty, the AP found. Some injured officers, teachers or students.

One happened the day after the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, when a sheriff’s deputy shot himself in the leg while responding to a report of a person with a gun at a school in neighboring Coconut Creek.

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AP makes the case for disarming cops and leaving school children defenseless, because no one is safer than cops.
1 posted on 12/09/2019 6:35:26 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Give all law enforcers night sticks and take away their SWAT toys. The press has spoken.

#canthavenicethings


2 posted on 12/09/2019 6:39:46 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Navy Patriot

Great point, Ape Pee. Say, Ape Pee, you don’t happen to have armed security at the entrance to your little newsstand, do you?


3 posted on 12/09/2019 6:39:52 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Navy Patriot

In a like manner, should we not ban “journalists” for printing their low-IQ drivel since they have demonstrated an unfailing tendency to lie (either deliberately or by omission), shown an inability to understand science, and have gained a respect even lower than that collection of slime mold otherwise known as congress?


4 posted on 12/09/2019 6:40:31 AM PST by Da Coyote (is)
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To: Navy Patriot

And in other news, the AP found people driving cars have accidents. So the AP would like all cars and trucks banned.


5 posted on 12/09/2019 6:56:25 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Navy Patriot

AP = Asinine Propaganda


6 posted on 12/09/2019 7:00:46 AM PST by real saxophonist (Never let Sean Connery teach your dog to Sit!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Give them something other than Glocks..../s


7 posted on 12/09/2019 7:07:06 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Navy Patriot

It sure did take them a long time to figure this out. You can’t rely on teachers to wield the guns. The Fort Lauderdale shooting shows you can’t even rely on the cops.


8 posted on 12/09/2019 7:08:01 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Navy Patriot
what is the ratio of LEO's drawing their weapon vs. teachers?

500,000:1?

How many teacher have accidentally shot someone on school grounds?

ZERO!!!!!

9 posted on 12/09/2019 7:14:20 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Navy Patriot

Reflecting back on your school years, how many teachers do you remember who you would trust to handle deadly force, especially in one of today’s disorderly schools full of semi-ferals? I could come up with 1 or 2 out of every 100. Most would be an absolute menace, and much more likely to drop or loose their firearm.

If the concept is arming numerous teachers, I see that as a very bad idea. Stationing a few, highly trained defenders, sort of like “air marshals”, in schools might work. Even at that, there would be massive second-guessing, hand-wringing, and lawsuits if a student were to be shot. Even if the real facts showed it to be justified, I doubt the concept would survive very long.


10 posted on 12/09/2019 7:21:31 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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re: “Reflecting back on your school years, how many teachers do you remember who you would trust to handle deadly force”

Several.

One junior HS teacher was a part time cop out in our township ...


11 posted on 12/09/2019 7:23:44 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim

Many of my teachers were WWII and Korea vets.


12 posted on 12/09/2019 7:52:36 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Navy Patriot

The statistics show that in general, under shall-issue carry permit systems, that permit holders are both more law-abiding than the police, and considerably less likely to shoot the wrong person.


13 posted on 12/09/2019 8:36:06 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Chewbarkah

I’ll grant you that in areas of the country without traditions of private gun ownership that you could easily hit 75%, it’s not so hard a task that it hits 98-99%.

If you can’t find 5-6 members of the staff who can be trusted with a firearm, then there are far worse problems going on.


14 posted on 12/09/2019 8:39:16 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Navy Patriot

I leave the range when cops show up to shoot. That’s all I will say at this point.


15 posted on 12/09/2019 8:41:11 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: lepton
The statistics show that in general, under shall-issue carry permit systems, that permit holders are both more law-abiding than the police, and considerably less likely to shoot the wrong person.

A CCW is aware that, if he shoots somebody without legal justification, he's in immense trouble. Unlike cops who seem to get away with shooting up the neighborhood without anywhere near the adverse consequences that a civilian would experience.

16 posted on 12/09/2019 8:51:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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After a little reflecting, while I was teaching high school, I could have been an armed teacher except that my dress was not well designed for concealment. (and a student took a calculator that was in my briefcase so that is not a good place either.) The best I could come up with would have been a safe in the Math office which was not far from my classroom and might have worked.

However later in my career when I had breathing problems and classes at the University that ended after dark, I would have welcomed a “friend” in my belt for those walks to the parking lot. Again, I believe the classroom should have a concealed safe unless the concealed hand gun on my person was hidden well enough. (My college prof outfit was more covering than my high school teaching days where I also wore a coaches top on many days.)

As to the issue of whether I would have been “appropriate” in the role of defender of my school, Damn right I was, with training and attitude I was a better choice than a patrolling off duty cop who roamed the school somewhere.


17 posted on 12/09/2019 9:14:01 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I leave the range when cops show up to shoot. That’s all I will say at this point.

I was going to say the same thing. Worst discipline I've ever seen at the range.

18 posted on 12/09/2019 9:34:57 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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Reflecting back on your school years, how many teachers do you remember who you would trust to handle deadly force, ...

Being as I was schooled in the 40's and 50's, pretty much most of 'em.

19 posted on 12/09/2019 11:46:45 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: lepton
The statistics show that in general, under shall-issue carry permit systems, that permit holders are both more law-abiding than the police, and considerably less likely to shoot the wrong person.

These statistics have remained constant since the 60's when I became a 2A advocate.

20 posted on 12/09/2019 11:49:01 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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