Schiff’s Snooping Standard: He says he can gather and release private metadata because only ‘the far right’ objects.

Wall Street Journal ^ | December 8, 2019

[karpov]

Kudos to Margaret Brennan of CBS for asking Adam Schiff on Sunday about his release of phone logs of his political opponents. Mr. Schiff dismissed any criticism, and his reason is revealing about the balance of power in Washington.

“The blowback has only come from the far right,” Mr. Schiff said. “But look, every investigator seeks phone records to corroborate, sometimes to contradict, a witness’s testimony.”

Yes, but executive-branch investigators who want to get data from private telecom companies typically must obtain some kind of judicial order. Mr. Schiff did it himself. Prosecutors are also supposed to limit the release of data on innocent bystanders like journalists for privacy reasons. The intelligence term of art is “minimization.” Mr. Schiff released the phone logs of journalist John Solomon and Rep. Devin Nunes —information irrelevant to his impeachment case against President Trump. The narrative of his report suggests he did it gratuitously to imply that Mr. Nunes is part of the Ukraine conspiracy, though the Republican has a right to call anyone he wants.

[Lazamataz]

Wow. All of my fears are being confirmed about the government. Just a few years ago a person would have been called crazy for suggesting that our politicians would do such a thing.

Bad news.

It will get MUCH worse.

"Deaths by the millions" worse.

[Lazamataz]

Lindsey Graham is neither Trump’s attorney who decides what witnesses to offer for the defense, which may be Rudy or someone else.Nor is he the judge, who will rule on evidentiary questions. That will be the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Oh YAY! Justice Roberts, the guy who was blackmailed into passing ObamaCare!

I feel SO much better now!

[Eleutheria5]

He’s still a judge, and this is still a trial. Justice Roberts, for all his faults, was a trial judge before some here were born, and knows how to preside over a trial. But the bottom line is, it’s not up to Lindsey Graham what is and isn’t relevant and admissible. It is up to Judge Roberts, and before making a ruling, he must hear both sides, and right is on Trump’s side.

[Lazamataz]

He’s still a judge, and this is still a trial. Justice Roberts, for all his faults, was a trial judge before some here were born, and knows how to preside over a trial. But the bottom line is, it’s not up to Lindsey Graham what is and isn’t relevant and admissible. It is up to Judge Roberts, and before making a ruling, he must hear both sides, and right is on Trump’s side.

A trial judge who is blackmailed, is still a compromised trial judge.

[Eleutheria5]

The “blackmail” is not in evidence. It’s speculation as to why he ruled as he did. If he was blackmailed, it was by the Obama administration. They are no longer in power. If it could be proven, he should have been impeached. It didn’t happen then. It’s too late to bellyache. He’s the presiding judge.

You could do worse. In Buffalo, there used to be a judge named Judge Harry Forehead. No joke. He was a lush and a horrible jurist. I’ve seen trials where a judge was making nasty gestures while the plaintiff’s attorney spoke, who rushed the attorneys through summation, because he had to fly home to watch a ballgame, and another who gave ridiculous rulings that a 1st year law student would know was wrong, in order to pressure the sides to settle.

Judge Roberts is the hand we’ve been dealt. No option other than to play it well.

[Candor7]

Interesting history. How was it then that Lenin lead Bolsheviks, yet ultimately purged them from the Communist party? It must ne an interesting flip in history, one that I am not familiar with.

So many purges happened that they are hard to keep straight. The Trotsky-ites were chased down and disposed of at a later point.

This story of a Communist Jew/ Communist conflict resulting in a Communist diaspora of Jews must be told with clarity. It is a dynamic which has ultimately resulted in an attack on the very foundations of the Republic of the United States
and the Presidency, over a Bolshevik Jewish network seeking a Sorosa skewed US hegemony over the Ukraine.

These Bolsheviks are quite vile. And they do not deserve to be shielded by the holocaust, they actually came a much different way to the West.But I expect we in the West will never be able to make the separation without rancor.

[Lazamataz]

The “blackmail” is not in evidence. It’s speculation as to why he ruled as he did.

Dear sir, I know you are not naive. just as a police officer is aware of an illegal gun on a suspect, but cannot prove it, so are many of us aware of this blackmail. Even his fellow SCOTUS members were shocked at his sudden reversal, and if you recall his announcement of his decision on live TV, you will remember his obvious discomfort -- nay, desperation!

If he was blackmailed, it was by the Obama administration. They are no longer in power.

Do you think for one second the apparatus behind the Obamanation is disassembled? Tell me you do not believe this.

If it could be proven, he should have been impeached. It didn’t happen then.

That's the thing about blackmail: To prove it, you must admit (or have external forces disclose) the thing you are trying to hide.

It’s too late to bellyache. He’s the presiding judge.....Judge Roberts is the hand we’ve been dealt. No option other than to play it well.

This is the only thing we can agree upon.

However, do not count me as terribly hopeful the truth will out.

[combat_boots]

Once you get power, eliminating your enemies and those who can prove how you got there becomes imperative.

Hence Lenin and the Bolsheviks, as well as the Clintons, and, no doubt, 0bama.

[combat_boots]

“’Deaths by the millions’ worse.”

Agreed.

[Eleutheria5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c8YWV1bDu8

[Eleutheria5]

“Just as a police officer is aware of an illegal gun on a suspect, but cannot prove it, so are many of us aware of this blackmail.”

A police officer is aware of an illegal gun on a suspect has probable cause to investigate based on his demeanor, how he keeps tapping his pocket and looking around. So he takes steps, whether by getting the drop on him and making him “assume the position,” or with a jiu jitsu move he learned at the academy. That’s how he proves it. By disarming the suspect before anyone gets hurt.

No steps taken here, other than to gripe about how bad Judge Roberts is for years on end. Too late to put in a complaint. Play the cards you’re dealt. The real judge is the public, who, thanks to three years of overkill by the MSM, can smell BS a mile off regarding impeachment.

[Lazamataz]

A police officer is aware of an illegal gun on a suspect has probable cause to investigate based on his demeanor, how he keeps tapping his pocket and looking around. So he takes steps, whether by getting the drop on him and making him “assume the position,” or with a jiu jitsu move he learned at the academy. That’s how he proves it. By disarming the suspect before anyone gets hurt.

...and if we, the public, had police powers, this is how the Roberts blackmail would have gone.

We don't.

Thus -- and especially because of the nature of blackmail -- there is nothing we could do.

For a second time: I agree with you we play the hand we are dealt, but with a compromised judge, I don't expect good things.

[Candor7]

I see that Nunes is taking CNN to court, and he will sue Schiff next.

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1203428622251577348

[Fred Nerks]

But I expect we in the West will never be able to make the separation without rancor.

The reason for the suppression of the book by Solzhenitsyn Two Hundred Years Together might provide the answer.

[dhs12345]

The fact that we now know that it is happening is a positive. Knowledge is power.

[Fred Nerks]

This one didn't even stick around for the glorious revolution.... WIKI

Early years Alexander Leo Trachtenberg, later known to his friends as "Alex" or "Trachty," was born on November 23, 1885, of Jewish parents in the city of Odessa, part of the Pale of Settlement of the Russian Empire.

During the Russian Revolution of 1905, Trachtenberg escaped pogroms against the Jews in 1905 and 1906. Soon after his release in 1906, he joined many other Jews in political emigration to the United States. Trachtenberg arrived in New York City on August 6, 1906, on a ship from Hamburg, Germany, a major port of departure to the US.

[Fred Nerks]

pinged myself, was for you:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3799327/posts?page=76#76

[Candor7]

The scions of such men are Schiff, Goldman,Nadler,Vindman,
Karlan, Soros and many others who seek to make the Ukraine their playgroud in preparation for war with Russia.

They have a problem: President Trump and Rudi Giuliani
And they will not be able to shake them now.

[The Westerner]

It's possible that some of those NSC Obama leftovers ran queries to get that raw data. It's still bothering me what Farkus alluded to “we don't want them to know how we know.” Or what capability did ValJar take with her over to the crash pad in DC?