Posted on 12/02/2019 7:54:23 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
MANCHESTER, England, December 2, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) ― A crowd of 200 people turned out for the worlds first gender detransition conference on Saturday afternoon.
Detransition: The Elephant in the Room. Medical Ethics in the Age of Gender Identity was held in Manchester, England on November 30. Organized by an independent feminist collective called Make More Noise, the sold-out event included a panel of medical and psychological health experts as well as young women who are detransitioning from attempts to make them men.
The event also marked the official launch of the Detransition Advocacy Network headed by Charlie Evans, 28, a woman who identified as a man for a decade. Evans decided to found the group to help the hundreds of young people she says have reached out to her after regretting their own experiments with hormonal treatments and surgeries.
The two-hour meeting was live-tweeted by the Safe Schools Alliance UK, a lobby group that seeks to ensure the safeguarding of children in schools, which includes protecting girls bodily privacy from males and all children from pressure to consider themselves transgender.
According to the Safe Schools Alliance UK, the meeting began with remarks by Evans, who stated, We are not motivated by hate. We are motivated by solidarity, sisterhood, and a strong sense of justice. Evans was followed by a female detransitioner named Max, who said her attempts to become male were about escaping lesbophobia and male harassment.
Another detransitioner, Kira, said she had been a gender nonconformist child (tomboy) until she began to feel social pressure to conform to femininity. Kira began hormone therapy and had a double mastectomy at 20. She came to realize, however, that these treatments were not evidence of self-acceptance.
How can I possibly be loving myself if I am sacrificing my general health in order to change my whole being? she asked.
The experts who spoke included Dr. David Bell, a consultant psychiatrist in the Adult Department of Londons Tavistock Centre, where the Gender Identity Development Service for children can be found. Bell said he doesnt believe that gender reassignment clinics do follow-up checks on their patients. He also remarked that the term puberty blockers for the powerful drugs given to children to delay the onset of puberty is misleading. Bell believes that the drugs probably have physiological consequences beyond delaying puberty.
The lack of long term evidence is the biggest issue in this field, he said.
Dr. Anna Hutchinson, a clinical psychologist, revealed that almost 100% of children who take drugs to delay puberty go on to take cross-sex hormones. Dr. Hannah Ryan, an infectious diseases researcher, noted that the effects of so-called puberty-blockers and hormone replacement therapy are long-term, so long-term data collection following treatments is essential.
Ryan also stated that medical professionals are under immense pressure to give distressed children with gender dysphoria procedures to make them look like members of the opposite sex. Bell noted that many medical professionals are worried about being called transphobic or accused of a hate crime. Hutchison said medical professionals are accused of transphobia just for asking for more research to be done.
How can it be transphobic to call for better standards of care? she asked. I want better standards of care for dysphoric children.
Fear of being labelled transphobic seemed to resonate with the audience. According to the Safe Schools Alliance UK member live-tweeting the meeting, a medical professional on the floor described being silenced.
We are advised against using the terms detransition and desisters, he said and noted that this worries him.
A psychologist in the audience expressed concern about the affirmation-only model which, the Safe Schools Alliance UK member noted, advocates immediate social transition for gender-questioning children.
Still another audience member voiced concern that gender ideology sounds like old school sexism, and Dr. Bell replied by saying he had observed a caricaturing of gender stereotypes through transition.
The issue of girls feeling that girls are supposed to follow a narrow concept of femininity or transition into men appeared again when a panel of young women who are now detransitioning from their attempts to be men discussed their experiences. One young woman, called Ellie, said she had lacked role models of masculine females.
Another issue that arose was the young womens discomfort with their adolescent same-sex attractions.
The detransitioning women differed in their levels of regret over the invasive procedures they received. One woman feels that her mastectomy relieved her gender dysphoria, but one was scathing over the treatment she had received.
What the hell are surgeons doing, calling this gender reassignment and gender-reaffirming health care? Because my body doesnt feel healthy anymore, she said.
This 23-year-old woman, who apparently spoke anonymously, had had a double mastectomy, hysterectomy, and an oophorectomy (removal of ovaries) before she realized that she would never become male.
Im sorry: I just cant believe it anymore, she told the audience.
According to Safe Schools Alliance UK, a male audience member was clearly upset when he told the young panellists that their testimony should be widely heard.
I was 30 before I was happy with myself, he said. People have done this to you and allowed this to go on.
You say where do we need a platform next? he continued. You need it everywhere.
You are right about dysphoria, but it used to be seen, correctly, as a form of mental illness. Whereas now, it has met up with the fashionable academic idea that gender is “fluid”, and that there are not two genders, but many, self-created ones. This is actually taught to social workers, etc. So dysphoria has become the basis for a legitimate identity.
The sick ideology of a decadent society. Anyway, the backlash is coming.
The Human Ken Doll.
Insisting on using the right words would help. Gender is a construct — i.e. it’s all in the mind. Therefore, it can be fluid, and there can be any number of genders you care to imagine. OTOH, sex is biological, fixed, and binary.
If someone tells you “there are many genders”; don’t argue. Instead say something like: “O.K, but, there are only two sexes, and you can’t change them”. Otherwise, you’re falling into a trap.
and all these ‘Detransitioners’ will be labeled as ‘hate group’ by the homofascist left-
Two things... First off, gender dysphoria is in the DSM. It is a recognized disorder. But it is one where it has great difficulty in being treated. There isn’t a magic pill to treat it. This is very commonly a life-long problem.
Second, there is typically confusion with the semantics. Gender and biological sex are different things. Biological sex is your genetic sex determined at conception. This is different than what society defines as masculine and feminine. And that does tend to be fluid not just from one person to another but it can change over the course of time and different cultures.
Ever hear of a “tomboy?” A girl that doesn’t dispute the fact she’s a girl but likes boys things. That’s completely normal. And it’s only logical to assume it could go the other way too where a boy may be happy as a boy, but like girl things. This is different from transgender.
Exactly. I was a tomboy myself, riding dirt bikes, playing with Tonka trucks, etc., but never felt the need to mutilate myself. This mentally perverse crap needs to stop!
Spot on, which is why the word “gender” was pushed/invented in the first place. It’s the Left up to their usual malicious tricks by first seeking to destroy language. Whenever I hear them talk I think of the Nazi’s and their “work camps” and “showers”.
And up next for her, brittle bones in her 30s. She’s going to have to be so careful walking on sidewalks or driveways with even a bit of ice. It’s not a fun experience for any of us living in the Tundra, but this poor being now needs to stay out of these zones entirely. She also can’t be in crowds for fear of being even minimally jostled. I wonder - did drs. give her testosterone, at least? I don’t know what testosterone does for bones, but it must have some effect.
Indeed. The root of much "gender dysphoria" is a profound unhappiness with oneself to the point of wanting to become someone else. Treating that unhappiness would be a lot better than surgically mutilating these people.
Another issue that arose was the young womens discomfort with their adolescent same-sex attractions.
Something gays don’t talk about much. Perversion is a process, people aren’t born that way.
bttt
the blowback is beginning folks
For the doctors doing this its a double win: they get paid AND they get virtue signaling credit about how open minded they are. The needs of the patient arent really a factor in that equation.
And lest someone say do you really think doctors are that mercenary? I say ones who mutilate their patients to treat mental illness are
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