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Taxes paid into Social Security and Medicare is immediately spent. The same could happen with a "public 401(k)". Saying that employers can only keep their current 401(k) plans if they contribute 3% of salary will discourage some from offering 401(k) plans.
1 posted on 11/28/2019 9:30:37 AM PST by karpov
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> a government-run 401(k) plan that would be attached to Social Security <

LOL! Then the race would be on to see which program Congress would drive into bankruptcy faster.


2 posted on 11/28/2019 9:34:16 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Just another pool of money for the Democrats to steal.


3 posted on 11/28/2019 9:34:19 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Ah... NO, anything the government touches goes to sht. so I’ll take a hard pass on the government running a 401k.. That and the Bidens, clintons or obams witl just steal it


4 posted on 11/28/2019 9:34:32 AM PST by Ikeon (Oops.. did I say that?)
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The government has been wanting to take over IRAs/401(k)s for quite some time.

“Look at that pile of money just sitting there. The privileged people who own it obviously don’t need it. Let’s spend it!”


5 posted on 11/28/2019 9:34:57 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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a government-run 401(k) plan

what could possibly go wrong

6 posted on 11/28/2019 9:35:55 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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I used to describe baby boomers (I’m one) as the lump you see in a large snake after a big meal. Our lump is getting smaller all the time as we approach the snake’s anus.


7 posted on 11/28/2019 9:36:58 AM PST by hanamizu
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I just can’t believe that this openly sodomite pervert (is that redundant?) thinks for even a moment that he can be president. But I’m sure that lots of the money sent his way will be spent by him and his “husband”. Incredible that he even darkens our TV screens even for a moment.

What in the world is anyone thinking who supports this sick puppy?


8 posted on 11/28/2019 9:37:31 AM PST by laweeks
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I just can’t believe that this openly sodomite pervert (is that redundant?) thinks for even a moment that he can be president. But I’m sure that lots of the money sent his way will be spent by him and his “husband”. Incredible that he even darkens our TV screens even for a moment.

What in the world is anyone thinking who supports this sick puppy?


9 posted on 11/28/2019 9:37:39 AM PST by laweeks
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Gubamint-run? Oh that’s a good idea... NOT!!!!

Pooof Politics or what?

Your Money goes in..

Ridiculous rules and regulations come out.


10 posted on 11/28/2019 9:38:21 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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Does this stupid idiot even understand what he’s saying outside of polled talking points?

Social security was conceived as and IS a supplemental retirement plan.

But it failed and thus was created 401k’s along with IRAs.

ANYONE can get an IRA, even if their company offers a 401k and you can even get the tax credits for your IRA if you don’t contribute to your 401k (which I did for awhile because my company’s 401k sucked).

Now here comes buttgood who wants to offer a 401k TO social security.

It doesn’t make sense as a plan - it doesn’t benefit anyone... except the government which will take in more money and harm the individual.


11 posted on 11/28/2019 9:38:48 AM PST by Skywise
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Buttigieg “is proposing to create a government-run confiscate your 401(k)
12 posted on 11/28/2019 9:40:09 AM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all. And send her back!)
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Transitioning Social Security to a 401(k)-ish program would stimulate demand for U.S. stocks and bonds, right at a time when #OKBoomers are cashing in their own 401(k)s.


13 posted on 11/28/2019 9:40:10 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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“Lock Box” - Algore.


15 posted on 11/28/2019 9:43:06 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan”. Sounds familiar.

Just say no to Butt01-K.


18 posted on 11/28/2019 9:45:16 AM PST by rfp1234 (All hail President Fartwell.)
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Politicians already have been salivating over all 401K and IRA plans. Over the years bills have been placed in the Hopper trying to take them and make them a type of Social Security 2 system.

Their reasoning is since the funds aren’t taxed up front they think the Government owns all the funds. Buttigieg’s plan is just another try at taking the People’s retirement savings.


19 posted on 11/28/2019 9:46:48 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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How about making SS a real fund again like before Congress raided it? Build up a the SS fund account instead of the current pay as they go. At least a partial build up and subject part of it to growth funds like a stock index funds. It would grow some compounding interest at least.
Butt’s govt run 401/k? Like investing with a casino. The house wins, we lose.


20 posted on 11/28/2019 9:47:10 AM PST by tflabo (Prince of Peace, Lion of Righteousness)
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Buttigieg “is proposing to create a government-run.


21 posted on 11/28/2019 9:51:56 AM PST by mdittmar
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One version of this proposal, popular during the Great Recession, was that 401Ks would have to invest in “safe” options. AKA, part of every 401K and IRA would have to invest X% in government bonds. It is essentially confiscation of wealth.


22 posted on 11/28/2019 9:52:50 AM PST by tbw2
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So he wants to RAID SOCIAL SECURITY!!! Great idea, Pete.

[Now, I don’t know if it’s a raid or not, but what the hell, if we play by Democrat rules we’ll just claim that to be the case]


23 posted on 11/28/2019 9:53:38 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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How’s this different from an HSA?


25 posted on 11/28/2019 9:53:51 AM PST by Brilliant
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