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Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2019/11/27/virginia-senate-bill-no-64-declaring-tactical-training-illegal/ ^ | November 28, 2019 | BY Herschel Smith

Posted on 11/28/2019 6:22:56 AM PST by Chode

SENATE BILL NO. 64

Offered January 8, 2020
Prefiled November 21, 2019
A BILL to amend and reenact § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.

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Patron– Lucas
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Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.

A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.

This is a remarkable development.  One refreshing thing is that the masks have all come off now.  With control of the Senate, House and Governor’s mansion, the controllers want you to know where they stand and are willing to say so out loud and in the clearest possible terms.

Leaving aside the issue of whether one could ever demonstrate intent behind either the delivery or receiving of tactical training, what they really intend is to render illegal any training that involves CQB, small unit fire and maneuver tactics, or any combination of training in long range precision shooting, discrete communications, or battle tactics, techniques and procedures.  Only LEOs can have such training.

The truly remarkable thing is the stated reason: ” … intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder.”  That the American fathers did that very thing and gave us separation from King George isn’t missed on them.  They don’t need more education – it’s their knowledge of history and human nature that has brought us to this point.  This is essentially their way of saying that any chance of separation is now gone, given that they have the reigns of power.

It’s appropriate at this point to rehearse the views of the founders and the citizens at the time of the war of independence.

“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…”
– George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
– Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
– Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

“On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

“I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence … I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
– Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

“To disarm the people…[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them.”
– George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.”
– George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”
– Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.”
– James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.”
– James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

“…the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone…”
– James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”
– William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms…  “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
– Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
– Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

“This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty…. The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.”
– St. George Tucker, Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves.”
– Thomas Paine, “Thoughts on Defensive War” in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
– Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

“The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”
– Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty …. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”
– Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

“For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.”
– Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.”
– Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

“[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.”
– Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”
– Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

That was long but necessary reading.  Apparently Virginia has become the battleground du jour for the controllers.  They may be in for something a bit different than what they had bargained for.


TOPICS: US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; dsj02; itscoming; paramilitary; policestate; preppers; rkba; tactical; tyranny; virginia
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1 posted on 11/28/2019 6:22:56 AM PST by Chode
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To: Travis McGee; Jet Jaguar
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2 posted on 11/28/2019 6:23:51 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: mabarker1

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3 posted on 11/28/2019 6:25:58 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: Chode

To never be enforced against muslims....


4 posted on 11/28/2019 6:26:33 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Chode

..and this is how it starts. Soon, you folks in VA just won’t have any legal use for those guns, and they must be turned in.


5 posted on 11/28/2019 6:26:39 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: Chode

Not just tactical training. A father teaching his son how to use a .22 or even just a pellet gun is guilty.

So if a security company training security guards who protect the Virginia Legislature, but these morons can’t think that far ahead.


6 posted on 11/28/2019 6:28:32 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: Chode

7 posted on 11/28/2019 6:28:35 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Chode

They seem to want to recreat the birth of are nation. Parliament acted in much the same way as the Virginia legislature.


8 posted on 11/28/2019 6:28:50 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Chode

One ‘Trump’ judge will shoot it down. Clearly unconstitutional. They have judges and we have judges.


9 posted on 11/28/2019 6:28:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
And that's one of the keys to me.

Every state has training camps for muslims to go to. Outsiders not allowed.

And these are almost never visited, for fire safety nor for health reasons. Forget a sheriff trying to enter unannounced.

10 posted on 11/28/2019 6:29:52 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Chode

So VA will no longer require training for CCW permits?


11 posted on 11/28/2019 6:30:14 AM PST by umgud
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To: Chode

Have they forbidden field trips to Williamsburg yet? They teach about gun confiscation there.


12 posted on 11/28/2019 6:31:31 AM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Chode
knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder

Seems they’d have to be able to prove intent. Regardless, government has absolutely no right or authority to restrict this stuff.

13 posted on 11/28/2019 6:31:50 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Chode

These guys make George III and his parliament look like pikers....


15 posted on 11/28/2019 6:33:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Chode

They want to do anything the can to keep conservatives out of the state.


16 posted on 11/28/2019 6:36:42 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Chode

Your State !

ML/NJ


17 posted on 11/28/2019 6:38:54 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Chode

Unless an individual or group clearly advocates the violent overthrow of the government restrictions like this would never survive judicial scrutiny.


18 posted on 11/28/2019 6:40:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: central_va
One ‘Trump’ judge will shoot it down. Clearly unconstitutional. They have judges and we have judges.

This is so far over the line that even liberal judges would shoot it down. (Maybe not Obama judges, but actual liberal judges.) Even the ACLU would argue against it.

19 posted on 11/28/2019 6:41:25 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation gets the government it deserves." -Joseph de Maistre)
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To: Chode

So does this shut down all practice firing ranges in Virginia?


20 posted on 11/28/2019 6:43:30 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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