"I'm just like every other girl!"
Posted on 11/17/2019 10:27:18 AM PST by Drew68
After addressing the controversial issue of transgender students' access to locker rooms in a few different ways over the past four years, Palatine-Schaumburg High School District 211 board members Thursday voted 5-2 to lift a requirement that those students use privacy stalls.
Board members Mark Cramer and Pete Dombrowski dissented. Earlier in the meeting, they were the only board members to vote for Cramer's motion to postpone the vote in favor of an advisory referendum in March.
Some board members said their votes were based on much individual research.
"I myself have been the subject of discrimination all my life," board member Ed Yung said. "I know what these people are fighting for."
While privacy stalls have been made available for all students in locker rooms at the district's five high schools, only transgender students have been required to use them. But when second semester classes begin a fter the holidays, no such rule will be in effect.
"Discrimination is never an acceptable compromise," board member Kim Cavill said.
Nova Maday, a transgender 2018 graduate of Palatine High School with a discrimination lawsuit pending against the district, said she hoped the decision would influence other districts but doesn't accomplish every improvement she's sought for transgender students. One example of what's not included, she said, is easing the process of getting one's named changed on a student ID.
"It's a great first step," said Maday, who was born male but identifies as female. "It's huge, and school districts all across the state and nation are watching."
But Vicki Wilson, a fellow Palatine resident who co-founded the residents group Students and Parents for Privacy, called the new policy "a joke and a slap in the face."
"When you turn all intimate spaces coed, that's egregious," Wilson said.
She said among the ongoing problems the district is not addressing is that there aren't enough privacy stalls for every student to use each class period, while teens who do or try to use them are ridiculed.
Superintendent Dan Cates addressed the long-running public debate and the district's evolving response to the issue before the board members' discussion and vote.
"One of the biggest concerns we continue to hear is the idea that anyone can go in any locker room whenever they feel like it -- as if a different gender can be declared at will," Cates said. "That's not the way it works in District 211. Upon a request from the student's parent or guardian, a student's stated gender in the official school record establishes the student's gender for access to gender-specific facilities."
He added that there has been no disruption caused by transgender and gender non-conforming students' sharing locker rooms with other students since the current practice was established nearly four years ago. But some opponents of the policy challenged his claim.
The attainment of transgender students' unrestricted access to locker rooms was the goal of the federal complaint in 2015 of a Fremd High School student who had been required to use a private space outside the girls' locker room to change for gym class.
"Student A," as that now-former student continues to be called, was born male but identifies as female. After District 211's practice was deemed to be in violation of federal anti-discrimination requirements, the district negotiated the arrangement requiring transgender students to use privacy stalls.
That compromise was first challenged by a federal lawsuit filed in May 2016 by Students and Parents for Privacy, arguing that it went too far in violating the privacy rights of other students. The compromise was further challenged in November 2017 by Maday's state lawsuit, arguing that it maintained the discrimination against transgender students that was the basis of Student A's original complaint.
One of the key points of debate over the past four years was whether students still completely undressed in high school locker rooms. Advocates for transgender students' unrestricted access said no, while members and supporters of Students and Parents for Privacy said yes.
Students and Parents for Privacy dropped its lawsuit this April after a judge dismissed portions of it. But members of the group became more vocal again in September after Cates proposed unrestricted access for transgender students.
Members of the public on both sides of the issue have spoken at the last four board meetings. Among the 25 people randomly chosen to speak Thursday, 15 expressed support for the policy and 10 were opposed.
"I'm just like every other girl!"
Just waiting for that moment when an all transgender team wins a state championship in girls basketball or any other sport to see the meltdown that will occur. It will be realization that the left f**ked up something else royally!
“It’s a great first step,” said Maday, who was born male but identifies as female...
WTF DOES THAT MEAN!?!?!!?
What if I ABSOLUTELY identified as President Donald Trump?
I AM THE PRESIDENT and wanted everyone to address me as so.
Was convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that that’s who I am.
I wonder if they would put me in south beach psych or saint Vincent’s psych?
Well here you go, teenage girls have to share the locker rooms and showers with some creep who decides (or says) he’s a she. Coming to your school soon. It’s just a shot away
Don’t separate students at all based on which of the 63 (or whatever today’s number is) genders they subscribe to on that particular day. Just have one locker room for those with male genitalia regardless of how they “identify”, and have a second locker room for those with female genitalia again regardless of how they “identify”. Separate students when in facilities with plumbing based on the students’ plumbing, which is entirely appropriate and would make all normal, decent people happy.
To live as a transgender is to live a lie. To accommodate for transgenderism is to embrace and condone liars.
How many transgenders do they have in the school and school system?
“I’m just like every other girl!”
No you’re not. You have a penis.
L
Maybe President Trump should identify as a female forcing liberals to either recognize him as the nation's first woman president or admit all this tranny crap is horsesh*t.
ROFL
That’s a GREAT IDEA..
He should identify as a GAY BLACK FEMALE. :)
What you describe is how it’s been up until recent years. Males in one room, females in their room. Now with this “transsexual” business, and liberal lawyers and judges decreeing that “transsexual” people have civil rights to impose themselves where they don’t belong based on the male/female sorting, then you have this business going on.
You can identify a ham and cheese sandwich. Does not mean that you are one.
There are no transgender students. This is not about discrimination. This is about forcing people to discard their thoughts about what is proper and what is not.
Humans have evolved certain norms about naked, semi-naked, excretory and reproductive actions and whether they should be conducted in private or in public. These norms have nothing to do with religion.
The left wants them eliminated because they hate religion, specifically Christianity. This is really what it is about.
That’s a boy in the picture.
Why could this have not happened a few decades ago when i was in high school and really would have appreciated and made good use of unrestricted access to the girls licker room and showers
Then beauty of self identification suddenly hit me and i realized that there was absolutely nothing keeping me from self identifying as a teen age high school girl .
All the heavy lifting has already been done for me ( good thing too - at my advanced age heavy lifting is not what it used to be) by the woke SJWs position that a male can self identify as a female. If that insanity works, then age is just a number by comparison and I can just as legitimately as a teen age girl as any other male.
There is nothing stopping me.
Well, nothing unless you factor in basic decency, consideration for others, a desire to properly form development of young teenage men and women in a positive, healthy and sane direction and reluctance to destroy the emotional and sexual well being of teen age women
But who cares about that kind of stuff.
We've come a long way.
2010: "We just want to get married!"
2015: "Bake the cake, bigot!"
2019: "Wax my balls and suck my ladypenis, you transphobe, while I watch your teen daughters undress and twerk in front of your preschool children at the public library!"
If Hollywood didn’t take all this so seriously, there would be teenage screwball comedies made, about boys identifying as girls so they could into their locker rooms and restrooms.
Time for school board lynchings.
It's mind boggling to me. Where are the parents here?
Notice this crap only happens at white schools? Try sending boys into the girls' locker rooms at majority black or Muslim schools and people would be getting their asses kicked.
MMmmmm! It’s cute! /sarc
Just wondering: Is this happening only in suburban high schools?
As far as I can tell. See my post #17 above this one. I wondered the same thing.
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