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L.A. Times Opinion: Day 1 of the Trump impeachment hearing was a lost day for Democrats
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/13/2019 | Scott Jennings

Posted on 11/13/2019 5:19:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Day 1 of the public House impeachment hearings on President Trump is in the books, and nothing that happened will move public opinion in a meaningful way. The folks who have wanted to impeach Trump since he won the presidency still do, and the folks who don’t still don’t.

In other words, it’s a lost day for Democrats.

The burden of proof is on Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank) to do more than secure impeachment, which is all but certain. Their job is to conduct these hearings in a way that moves public opinion to the point that the Senate will convict the president. That means giving Republican senators something that changes their impression of Trump’s conduct of Ukraine foreign policy. What’s alleged may make many members of the GOP uncomfortable, but it doesn’t come remotely close to requiring that the president be removed from office.

The opening-day witnesses — diplomatic officials Bill Taylor and George Kent — testified professionally and with honor, but they failed to deliver a made-for-TV gotcha. Rather, they simply reiterated that they had no firsthand knowledge of the president’s interactions and had not had conversations with the president directly.

“What I can do here for you today is tell you what I heard from people,” Taylor said at one point to the Democratic counsel, which is not exactly compelling evidence if you are trying to convince the American people that what happened is worthy of taking down a presidency. In Taylor’s defense, he said he did not appear as a witness for either side of this debate, but obviously Democrats were hoping people would view him as a witness helpful to their impeachment ambitions.

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To: SeekAndFind

WINNING!!!


41 posted on 11/13/2019 8:10:51 PM PST by conservative98
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To: SeekAndFind

Bwahahahahaha! They should cut their losses but they should have done that in 2016. They’re burying themselves. Keep going dems, ya dummies!


42 posted on 11/13/2019 8:16:09 PM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: lodi90

” While it is enjoyable to see Ratcliffe dunk on Schiff all day it won’t change the outcome in the House.”

I still question whether they can come up with one or more articles that will pass the house.

They are looking mighty flimsy right now and I suspect some house Dims are getting quite nervous.

If their big show continues to bomb, they may not be able to muster a majority over something trivial, warranted, or untrue.


43 posted on 11/13/2019 8:33:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CottonBall

“why is it allowed here?”

Federal Rules of Evidence do not apply.

They house can make up any rules they please as long as they can get 218 votes with them.

There is absolutely no authority over them. None.


44 posted on 11/13/2019 8:35:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
If their big show continues to bomb, they may not be able to muster a majority over something trivial, warranted, or untrue.

That really is the sticking point. Pelosi said herself that she would need more public support to move forward. The media are grinding as hard as they can but there simply isn't any grist for the mill. Trump releasing the call immediately was a killer move.

45 posted on 11/13/2019 8:42:22 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

If second round of Schiff’s hearing is the same as today’s, they will just vote straight party-line and who knows what’s next.

[I don’t know why Schiff would want to withhold more condemning evidence till the second round, but whatevs.]


46 posted on 11/13/2019 8:51:20 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: lodi90; SeekAndFind
The burden of proof is on Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank) to do more than secure impeachment, which is all but certain.


That’s the key point. While it is enjoyable to see Ratcliffe dunk on Schiff all day it won’t change the outcome in the House.

Though, no doubt, Democrat moderates/vulnerables will have a gun to their heads expecting/forcing them to vote with the majority in the House for impeachment regardless of evidence or testimony, Trump's acquittal in the Senate will serve to punish ALL the Democrats as well as the Deep State denizens for their blatant political coup attempt for years to come.

Does anyone think Pelosi will come to her senses and put a stop to it all before it goes that far? I know their entire aim was to bloody up Trump for next year's election, but they HAVE to know it will only embolden his base and win more sensible people to his side. Schiff and Nancy will go down in history as the ones who almost single-handedly destroyed the Democrat party. Of course, they could decide after the hearings to NOT vote for impeachment because of lack of evidence and it's over. That's the only way I see they can go and retain any semblance of propriety and honor. It's the only way they might save face before the American people though I'd be delighted to see them all crash and burn. That party has veered so far left they have lost their right minds!

47 posted on 11/13/2019 8:57:00 PM PST by boatbums (Republicans don't need a War Room because they have a WARRIOR!)
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To: goldstategop
It was a nothingburger today the execrable and stupid Chris Wallace notwithstanding. Democrats couldn’t show Trump committed a crime. What they did show was Deep State bureaucrats disagreed with him about foreign policy. Even if true, it doesn’t rise to the level of an impeachable offense.

Exactly right! Didn't someone once say, "Elections have consequences."?

48 posted on 11/13/2019 9:04:58 PM PST by boatbums (Republicans don't need a War Room because they have a WARRIOR!)
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To: Bullish

Chris Wall-ass is a $hitstain in the world of journalism.


49 posted on 11/13/2019 9:05:34 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm triggered by liberals and other assorted moonbats.)
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To: exDemMom

Which high school did Schiff attend?

Was it in Framingham, Massachusetts?


50 posted on 11/13/2019 9:07:16 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm triggered by liberals and other assorted moonbats.)
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To: Bullish
But according to Chris Wallace it’s practically the end for Trump.

Which means zip. According to the Democrat stooges, it's been the end of Trump for nearly 3 years now. Better tell Wallace to reboot.

51 posted on 11/13/2019 10:20:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you want some fun analysis: Swarthy Immigrant, who produces special guest “Adam Schiff” and we discuss his “impeachment inquiry” and “whistleblowers” and current events including the Project Veritas expose of ABC covering for Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump, Jr. on the View.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3znbMxv81ioP/


52 posted on 11/13/2019 11:07:47 PM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The opening-day witnesses — diplomatic officials Bill Taylor and George Kent — testified ... that they had no firsthand knowledge of the president’s interactions and had not had conversations with the president directly.

“What I can do here for you today is tell you what I heard from people,” Taylor said


53 posted on 11/13/2019 11:36:47 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: 11th_VA

When you’ve lost the rabid lefty LA TIMES . . .


54 posted on 11/13/2019 11:39:13 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: PGR88

BOOKMARK


55 posted on 11/13/2019 11:48:06 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Quite a few liberal media folks not happy

Rush may be right again

Yet again


56 posted on 11/13/2019 11:49:28 PM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: oldenuff35

I thought a lot of people here said that the Rs in the senate still need consent from the Ds in the senate (the minority) to call up a witness.


57 posted on 11/14/2019 12:34:11 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boy, if the Democrats have already lost the L.A. Times......


58 posted on 11/14/2019 12:47:36 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Libloather

“It’s rigged, Jim”

The Deep State Uniparty, with the help of Cocaine Mitch, will convict in the Senate, Trump removed and a return to business as usual - bribes, payoffs, open borders, no law, selling out America, etc...


59 posted on 11/14/2019 1:32:09 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: lodi90
"The midterms are safe."

That lie was the last straw for me...and the 2020 voter fraud will be massive & historic to insure the communists can complete the overthrow of America.

The only question is will Trump be the GOP nominee or will he be convicted & removed thanks to the Deep Stater Cocaine Mitch?

60 posted on 11/14/2019 1:39:02 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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