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Mexican slaughter victims were from NXIVM recruiting ground
Houston Chronicle ^ | November 7, 2019 | Robert Gavin

Posted on 11/07/2019 8:03:12 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

ALBANY – The nine U.S. citizens slaughtered in an ambush Monday were from a Mormon community in northern Mexico where NXIVM recruited teenagers for a "girls school" to live in the Capital Region under the care of a high-ranking "slave" for Keith Raniere. ... According to Moira Kim Penza, the lead federal prosecutor at Raniere's trial, Raniere created a “girls school” for Mexican teenagers, many of whom were recruited from within the LeBaron community to live in the Albany area under the care of a "first-line slave" for Raniere.

Raniere secretly operated a"master/slave" group known as DOS or “Dominus Obsequious Sororium," which translates from Latin as "Lord/Master of the Obedient Female Companions."

... some of the girls attending the so-called school took courses at Jness, a purported women’s group in NXIVM. There, they were “exposed to Raniere’s pedophilic and misogynistic teachings, and, I believe, being groomed to have sex with Raniere,” the former prosecutor explained.

“I believe the girls from the LeBaron community were targeted specifically because, having been raised in a polygamist sect, they were more vulnerable to Raniere’s teachings on sexuality, including that it is natural for women to be monogamous and for men to have more than one partner—a philosophy that served Raniere’s own sexual preferences,” Penza said.

At a Jness meeting in Apropos, a former Halfmoon restaurant on Route 9, NXIVM president Nancy Salzman parroted Raniere's words that some children are "adult-like," mentally capable of experiencing sex with adults and "perfectly happy" doing so.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: albany; cult; dominus; mexico; mormons; nxivm; obsequious; pervs; raniere; sexslaves; sororium
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Drug cartel hit?

I see that the liberal Mexican presidente refused Trump's offer to help get rid of these drug traffickers who massacred these people.

But also that the Mexican authorities arrested one guy....yes, just one guy....they think was responsible for the shootings.

Strange goings on in this case.

41 posted on 11/07/2019 10:17:31 AM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Some of the SUV were hit by rocket launchers I think


42 posted on 11/07/2019 10:24:33 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Is the article hoping we might conclude that they - especially the innocent children - all had it coming?


43 posted on 11/07/2019 10:24:47 AM PST by DPMD
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To: KobraKai

But did they deserve this? Especially the children?


44 posted on 11/07/2019 10:25:43 AM PST by DPMD
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

They showed in the news that the family went looking for them.They found a car with car seat in the back with the lid down and a bullet hole through it.They opened the lid and a one year old baby was smiling at them.Made me want to cry.


45 posted on 11/07/2019 10:35:48 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: DPMD

Don’t care. People die every dayall over the globe. Murdered or natural causes, it’s not the responsibility of the U.S. to jump in and intervene every time someone dies in this world.


46 posted on 11/07/2019 10:40:00 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: KobraKai
They had dual citizenship, and abused their USA status to crap out their little anchor babies

Nope. The children of US Citizens are not anchor babies by definition. Your comment verges on hysteria.

47 posted on 11/07/2019 11:01:36 AM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: no-s

The hysterics come from this demand to do something for the children, the most manipulative ploy you can use. Anchor baby or not, these people were abusing their U.S. citizenship to fleece taxpayers. Why were they living in Mexico? Mexico being dangerous is no secret.


48 posted on 11/07/2019 11:11:33 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: DPMD; KobraKai

I for one think these victims were 1000% blameless but again I ask. What was the motive? As evil as cartels are they don’t smoke women and children just for fun. They do it for a reason. With two cars separated by miles this was not a case of mistaken identity as far as the cars are concerned. Did the cartel know there were women and children in the cars? We don’t know. It was a hit and hits always have a purpose. What was the purpose?


49 posted on 11/07/2019 11:18:29 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Irrelevant.


50 posted on 11/07/2019 11:46:07 AM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

So motive is irrelevant? It was a horrendously despicable crime, but cartels do things for reasons. If they kidnap someone it is for ransom or to put them in the sex trade. If the kill a judge’s or police captains family it is to make LE too afraid to take them on. When they bomb a rival cartel it is to take over territory. If a cartel member shoots someone in the face for disrespecting them it has a reason.

Killing women children and BABIES is not done for no reason. It is not even that some psyco went off because crying babies triggered him. It was a hit. Why was there a hit?

If you think that is irrelevant then you would need to raise your IQ by double digits to even qualify as stupid.


51 posted on 11/07/2019 12:38:44 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

NYT is putting out stories like this to paint the women and children as somehow deserving of murder. The cartel may have had their reasons, that doesn’t justify the murder of American women and babies.


52 posted on 11/07/2019 1:04:37 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

I simply want to know why this happened. There is something very very fishy here.

You have to admit this smells all wrong.


53 posted on 11/07/2019 1:10:59 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: mylife

Yes exactly. Land, water, roads has been an issue recently.

People are also missing that there is an open cartel war going on right now. Agua Prieta (border community S. of Douglas, AZ) is a hot spot and is about 70 miles N. of where this happened?

Isolated area and the community these women and children are from has had other issues with cartels over the years.


54 posted on 11/07/2019 1:22:48 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: _Jim

No it is not fiction. Real people real locations. Small isolated communities.


55 posted on 11/07/2019 1:25:30 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Mangled Latin.

I think Dominus obsequiosarum sororum would be correct (or perhaps Dominus obsequentium sororum).

56 posted on 11/07/2019 1:59:48 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

NXIVM tried to recruit from this community because the women were vulnerable. That has nothing to do with the cartel. The Lebaron family did apparently have some run-ins, or were speaking out against the cartel.


57 posted on 11/07/2019 4:05:20 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Tammy8

2 bound and gagged hostages found in agua prieta the very next day


58 posted on 11/07/2019 6:08:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Most of the victims were children


59 posted on 11/07/2019 6:23:31 PM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: HotKat

I know. Disgusting. The evil cartel did it for a reason. A threat? A retribution? I don’t know why. We may never find out.


60 posted on 11/07/2019 6:30:59 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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