Posted on 11/06/2019 10:28:25 AM PST by Kaslin
I grew up in New Jersey. Morris County to be exact. Don’t get me wrong. I loved living there, but the taxes were immense. And by my senior year of college, my father had enough. They exited to the collar counties around Philadelphia, where the property tax burden was considerably less. Pennsylvania isn’t exactly a red state, especially where my parents live—it’s roughly 50-50 Democratic to Republican—but it’s sure better than the Garden State’s politics. In Pennsylvania, there’s a Republican legislature and if the state party could actually find a sentient being to run for governor, that person could win. The point is blue states are garbage. We’ve all seen the history of mismanagement, corruption, and overspending that plagues state whenever Democrats takeover. In California, scores of red voters are fleeing to states lie Texas, where their politics isn’t viewed as evil, law enforcement is respected, and taxes aren’t so damn high. As we speak, the Golden State is burning and plagued with forced blackouts. The blackouts are the latest method in preventing future wildfires. It’s the Venezuelan protocol. To no one’s surprise, those who are Republicans in this state are three times more likely to say they want to leave this hellhole (via LA Times):
The Volkswagen SUV whizzed past the Texas state line, a U-Haul trailer in tow, as it made its way toward Amarillo.
“Yay!” Judy Stark cried out to her husband, Richard, as they officially left California.
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Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, according to a UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times. Republicans and conservative voters were nearly three times as likely as their Democratic or liberal counterparts to seriously have considered moving — 40% compared with 14%, the poll found. Conservatives mentioned taxes and California’s political culture as a reason for leaving more frequently than they cited the state’s soaring housing costs.
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“We’re moving to redder pastures,” Stark, 71, said by phone. “We’re getting with people who believe in the same political agenda that we do: America first, Americans first, law and order.”
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A realtor, Bailey launched a Facebook group for others who were struggling with the same problems and looking to make a change. Her “Move to Texas From California!” group now has more than 14,000 members. Most, Bailey said, lean to the right, as she does — though not all.
In California, Bailey said, she felt that she had to hide her political beliefs. To build a more inclusive online community, she has laid down a few ground rules, including “no insulting or going overboard with political conversations.”
“I wouldn’t be one to put up a Trump sign, even here,” Bailey, 40, said. “But in your town Facebook, people would be like, ‘We know who the Trump supporters are.’ I had friends who voted for Trump and went to work the next day and pretended they didn’t.”
Bailey said she’s helped about 40 families move to Texas in the last year.
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State politics weren’t the driving factor behind Lisa Woolery’s move. Her family left California because they felt they weren’t “thriving” in Orange County. In 2018, she and her husband — who died recently — sold their home near Tustin and bought one in Johnson County, Kan., that was almost double the size but about half the price, she said.
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Although she didn’t leave the state because of politics, Woolery said that “it was nice to come to a place where whether you were a Democrat or Republican, you feel respected.” Southern California, she felt, wasn’t an inclusive place where it’s possible to have a “differing opinion.”
“If I said I was a Republican, or I voted for Donald Trump, I would get comments like, ‘Oh, I didn’t think you were a racist,’” she recalled.
Yeah, that’s liberalism in 2019. That’s the Democrats. They’re trash people with horrible values and some of these virulent people are also leaving and taking their politics to red states. The irony is thick. The agenda that they love—high taxes, oodles of regulations, health care for illegals, and other job-killing laws—is partially why they left states like California. I would’ve said come to Virginia ten years ago, but after tonight, look elsewhere. It’s slowly becoming Maryland.
Have you thought of Mexico?
Native Southern Virginian, now stuck in CT (moving is easier said than done). Family Seat Johnson City but migrated and all family now buried in Chattanooga. G-Grandparent’s set up a Homestead in Huntsville, AL.
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E. Tenn is SO not my final destination ;) /sarc
Proud to say, even in my neck of this horrible State, Repubs (as much as they can be up here) took a Super Majority in our Locals yesterday!
Which they will eventually turn into cesspools.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
I refuse to cede the state I was born and raised in to the San Fran leftists. I refuse to leave behind my job, my home, and my entire immediate family for...what exactly? What does fleeing California do except create red bubbles in other states? I believe in meeting the enemy where they are and fighting for what’s rightfully mine. If I were older or in poor health I might feel differently but since I am fit and in my late 20’s running just seems cowardly to me. Not judging the Freepers who left, we all have different life circumstances, just explaining why fleeing feels like the wrong thing to do in my circumstances. We tell the Mexicans and Central Americans to stay and fix their own countries rather than come to America; I don’t see how this is any different.
For the record, There are lots of places available in East Tennessee on various TVA lakes.
At present Boone lake level is down for I think a year and a half or so while the dam is being repaired. I think but can’t swear that there might be some very good lakeside property deals at present. There are sellers but few buyers.
Fort Patrick Henry lake is down stream and adjacent to Boone and while not as large, has lots of shoreline residential miles. My sister lives on Patrick Henry
Both are close, and in some places within Kingsport/Johnson City
city limits. I can leave my house and drive to Warrior Path State Park and be paddling my kayak on Patrick Henry in as little as 15 minutes or so.
South Holston Lake empties into the Holston river fork of Boone and is close to Bristol TN/VA
We actually have a Freeper family that migrated from California to a more rural area hereabouts and also another to the Knoxville area where there are lots of lake residential areas.
Here’s a link to Move to Kingsport. Hereabouts people are solid conservatives with no likely hood of change anytime soon
I suggested to one of my violin playing scouts that he expand his horizons and learn some fiddle tunes. He was playing in the school orchestra and his mother put the kibosh on my idea. Although the home of Blue Grass is just over the state line at the Carter Family Fold and Bristol has a large country music festival and calls itself the Home of Country Music, It is not required to be an aficionado.
Some how my son was a die hard Beatles fan years and years after they were gone. He managed to avoid my liking for Blue Grass in preference for Van Halen and other such. So, you need not worry.
There is no problem with good high speed internet on Spectrum or Comcast. The power company serving Johnson City area is in the process of building a fiber to your home network that will serve Washington County.
Thanks for all the info!
It's,"Honey it's so nice here with the low taxes and low regulations and low crime! The place just needs a few more services," and the new home state thus begins its inexorable slide into the abyss.
I left Minnestoopid in 2011, returning to Texas. I was called a racist neo Nazi because I did not worship Obama as the Messiah.
“Sadly, I think this may mean some conservatives in Texas are unfortunately raising some snowflakes.”
Unfortunately, the state’s political culture is being changed by higher education. It would appear that native born millennial college educated fools and female suburbanites tried to give us a senator named Beto.
They’re going to get their Bullet Buttons laughed at.
So you’re overhearing all these conversations? Or is that all inside your own head?
It's just a matter of how long it will take the newly elected Marxists to wreck it.
You’d be welcome back
Because many of those "Republicans" are suburban women of the Cindy McCain ilk, who never heard a collectivist promise to "Save Our Schools" they wouldn't fall for.
I live in Oak Ridge,
but don't mind the blue glow on the horizon
That's the struggle many of us go through. All of my roots are here. I am lucky to live in San Diego, where not only do we have the best climate in the USA, but we are not yet at the loony level of the other large cities in our state. Still, as my wife and I approach our grandparent years, we are weighing the pros and cons of being the "local" grandparents, or the ones with a lake house in the mountains. As locals, we get to see the grandkids several times a week, babysit them, take them to Disneyland, Seaworld, the beach, the park, fishing, camping, and generally play an active part in their life. As the "away" GP's, we would see the kids and grandkids maybe 4 times a year, but we "escape" liberal CA. As you can tell by the tone of my post, we are leaning toward staying.
All the "pure" freepers from Texas forget about their own roots when they spout their holier than thou "just move" crap.
Are waters - rivers - between all those lakes navigable?
Are there some nice lakes that don’t have huge swings in water level? I know most are TVA, and used for power generation, but are there some good year round lakes that don’t leave you with a useless lakefront for part of the year?
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