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McDonald's CEO Steve Easterbrook was fired over a relationship with an employee
Business Insider ^ | 11/3/2019 | Ellen Cranley

Posted on 11/04/2019 8:31:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog

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To: Buckeye McFrog

Wow. 20 posts and not one snark about giving her his “Big Mac”...


21 posted on 11/04/2019 9:33:31 AM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Maybe it was a male and the former CEO said “Supersize me!”


22 posted on 11/04/2019 9:35:08 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They don’t sell slurpees, do they???


23 posted on 11/04/2019 9:37:02 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Bavarian Clockworks to name their next cuckoo clock The Warren!!!)
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To: PGR88

He was divorced.


24 posted on 11/04/2019 9:40:15 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Darteaus94025

Do fries come with that shake?


25 posted on 11/04/2019 9:41:32 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Where is George Castanza?
“Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?”


26 posted on 11/04/2019 9:44:40 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Welcome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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To: Jamestown1630
What happens to the other person in the affair?

She gets to become CEO... isn't that how it works?

27 posted on 11/04/2019 9:48:30 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: OrangeHoof

>>Wow. 20 posts and not one snark about giving her his “Big Mac”...<<
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...or his “secret sauce.”


28 posted on 11/04/2019 9:51:30 AM PST by twister881 (Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.)
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To: monkeyshine

I don’t know why people in these situations can’t keep them secret. I met my husband at work - we were married a while before anyone but our boss and one co-worker knew we were a ‘thing’.


29 posted on 11/04/2019 10:13:20 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: dfwgator

Oh, you want the full meal!


30 posted on 11/04/2019 10:21:08 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Darteaus94025

Is there a toy included?


31 posted on 11/04/2019 11:24:43 AM PST by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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To: Jamestown1630

I agree with you. Discretion is key.

There is the potential for abusing the ‘power dynamic’ - I do believe that exists (and not just at work or with sex, in all relationships there is some kind of power dynamic interplay). There is the obvious “get under my desk or you’re fired” kind of stuff that goes on at the news networks. And some of it may be less direct.

But we are social and sexual by nature. There are 24 hours in a day. 8 of them we sleep. 10+ of them we are at work or getting ready for or getting to/from work. Of course relationships, attraction, respect, love, lust, disgust, hatred and various kinds of emotions are going to occur between two people working together for so much time for days, weeks and years.

I would say that if you are the CEO you have to be extra careful. If you are CEO and it is clearly a consensual relationship, then take it out in the open from the beginning. Or at least, bring it to one trusted person (like you said, your boss was informed, or knew). Hiding it is the mistake, imo. I assume both were single consenting adults. Even if it was just a fling or a one night stand, as long as both are consenting and there is no ‘quid pro quo’ it should be nobody’s business. But in this day and age and time, the appearance is bad PR.

It doesn’t have to be told to everyone, but get someone trusted, third party... and if it is the case of a direct superior to a subordinate perhaps moving someone laterally so that neither has to answer or report to the other is a good move. Someone up thread mention that often times the ‘less powerful’ party ultimately also ends up leaving the company too. How does this benefit the company to lose 2 employees, payouts etc?

But, in the end, 2 people attracted to each other is a good and human thing. Relationships don’t always end well - we’ve all been there - so making sure there is no retaliation, gossip, revenge etc by either party would be paramount for co-working paramours. Easier said than done perhaps. But some people are just more mature than others.


32 posted on 11/04/2019 1:32:30 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine
But, in the end, 2 people attracted to each other is a good and human thing.

Well, our position was very different - there were no rules against it (neither of us was under the authority of the other) and I suppose that if there had been, one of us would have left. It would have been easy to make that adjustment in our case, I imagine even easier in the story under consideration.

We kept it to ourselves simply because it was nobody else's business. We conducted ourselves professionally - work was work, and play was play - and there was a lot of surprise when people found out.

No matter who you are or what your situation, unexpected 'things' happen. Sometimes they're stupid things you shouldn't allow to happen - but sometimes they are serious and meaningful. I'm curious as to what the CEO meant, when he said that he realized it was 'wrong'. Was it 'wrong' simply because they broke the rules, or 'wrong' because it was just a stupid fling and not worth the transgression and consequences? There's not enough information in the story as received.

Carl Jung once wrote that no matter how often he encountered love, it remained a great mystery to him. He said that we are all the victims - and instruments - of the Love that creates the Universe. Sometimes you just get 'taken over' by something you simply can't deny; it has its own law and its way with you.

Stuff is going to happen, when men and women work together. You can't stop or control love - you can only handle what you DO about it and how you conduct yourself.

(It's also a very good idea to seriously investigate the character of anyone you're considering 'breaking the rules' with :-)
33 posted on 11/04/2019 4:32:49 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

That’s one of the reasons I love this website. How often do you converse with someone who references Carl Jung?

To your question, I think (and this is just my interpretation) that when the CEO said it was ‘wrong’, he meant that it was against the rules of his company and against the zeitgeist of today wrt workplace relationships. I didn’t attach any moral allusion to it though you are correct we are missing some info so we don’t know. Maybe the other party was married, or one or both in a serious unmarried relationship. Or maybe something even more unethical.

But if he is the CEO he is not “above the law” as they are fond of saying these days. Same rules for him as for the fry cook I’m sure. One of the reasons they want to automate the fry cook position :-) From the seriousness of the penalty I can only guess that this was something a lot closer to being disruptive and damaging eg a direct subordinate, or home-wrecking type situation that would cause the CEO to lose credibility with the entire C suite and staff.

As for your personal conduct, find it rare and commendable. It is nobody else’s business. Work is work. Play is play. Though, to be honest, I break some of the rules (e.g. posting on this website) and it is harder and harder to get people off their mobile phones/texts etc. However, I don’t put up with any kind of interpersonal shenanigans at work. Had to reprimand someone the other day who told another employee something like “if you don’t believe me, go smell inside the bathroom” or something stupid like that. Politics, religion, sex... and now bathroom comments are all off limits here. Oh, they gossip - they just don’t do it when I’m within earshot. It’s not as dull as all that, I care about everyone and when they have something to say I listen. It just has to be done with dignity and respect for the workplace.

Years back, for several years, I traveled a lot for work with a team of people to events with 1000s of other people. 3-4 night trips every few weeks. I would often buy the team one of the dinners and/or splurge for drinks. But it ended up with a number of ‘mistakes’ made - not by me, other than the mistake of paying for and tolerating excessive drinking - including a few cases of people not remembering the next morning who it was they slept with the night before. Not good. I had to stop. Oh and to be sure I had my share of opportunities too - but that just isn’t me. Often coquetted but never tempted.


34 posted on 11/04/2019 5:51:11 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

When I say “had to stop” I meant stop paying for a team dinner and drinks. Much to their chagrin because they could no longer pocket their per diem for that night.


35 posted on 11/04/2019 5:56:06 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine
'dignity and respect for the workplace.'

I think that says it all.

But: in this case, only the *man* has been subjected to public humiliation. It 'Takes Two to Tango', as Abby or her sister used to say...

(By the way: there have been lots of references to Jung here, lately - through posts about Jordan Peterson. I haven't read any of his books, and frankly, haven't been able to get through any of his talks - something about his 'rambling' gets on my nerves. But he's been somewhat popular on FR, and is a very interesting thinker.)
36 posted on 11/04/2019 7:13:20 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: cuban leaf
It was probably with another he, if I had to guess.

It was the fry guy, and he gave him a Big Mac and large shake.

37 posted on 11/04/2019 7:15:50 PM PST by SIDENET
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To: SIDENET

LOL


38 posted on 11/04/2019 7:17:29 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: Jamestown1630

Interesting. As you may be able to tell I am a fan of the rambling intellectual lecture. I know who Jordan Peterson is and have seen a few videos, clips, interviews and conversations of or with him. He’s a relatively new phenomenon afaik. I had no idea about his penchant for Jung. I must take a closer look.

You are an intriguing cookie, Jamestown1630. I am curious about your handle as well. I googled ‘Jamestown 1630’ and saw a reference to a native captive freed in 1630 some years after the massacre.

Anyway, I hope you’ll ping me to something of interest soon, and I will try to do the same for you.


39 posted on 11/05/2019 12:15:59 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m going to cut the CEO a break. How was he supposed to know the person was an employee? Pretty hard to look them up in the company directory when they don’t have a name.


40 posted on 11/05/2019 12:30:37 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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