Posted on 11/03/2019 8:44:35 PM PST by Stravinsky
Yeah, well, when they learn to drive manual transmissions, maybe they will get some respect...But, maybe not.
Why drag Oklahoma into this? Is it worse there?
At least that weird grunge generation thing of random capital letters seems to have vanished............
Huh? Liberal arts classes aren’t what has made college expensive. It is the layers and layers and layers of bureaucracy and crazy construction of luxury buildings that have swelled to satisfy ever-more students ever-less prepared for college, bureaucratic mandates and competitive amenities in a taxpayers-are-subsidizing-it-anyway world.
I didn’t notice one way or the other.
Bingo. People should take a look at the administrative layer of universities. The bloat at that layer continues, as does the budget necessary to support the expansion.
Ok “Useful Idiots” (Look it up.)
The NYT is typically clueless to matters of teh Interwebz - come on, I thought Sarah Jeong was going to solve all this for them? No matter. Intergenerational flame-throwing is a habit of weak and petty minds. We’re all in this together, like it or not.
There are a lot of factors, not just one. Why are professors teaching skills that are only good for teaching to other students, if you’re lucky enough to get a teaching job yourself? Why are the materials so expensive? The universities are full of poor people who are neck deep in debt just so that the university can make money off of them. And they’re getting useless skills such as theatrical arts, literature, dancing, etc. which are only supposed to “enrich their lives”, not earn them money to pay off those debts. It’s all a scam but they’re not educated enough to know it.
Why are universities teaching literature?
Why are you (and the rest of the country) trying to stretch universities into simple trade schools, with simple, trade-school students?
If you want to learn how to drive a tractor-trailor truck or fix an HVAC system, there is no need to go anywhere near a college.
Likewise, it shouldn’t have become the norm for policemen, nurses, etc., to need four-year college degrees. Such students, like you, have no interest in literature and the like and there is no reason to force them to go into such debt and take traditional college classes.
Boomers -vs- Doomers
Have you actually worked in the tech industry? The #1 employer complaint about engineering-type employees is their inability to write clearly.
But BS degree requirements have long been more specialized than BA degrees to keep such classes to a minimum.
And just WHY did I post the above?
BECAUSE IT IS WHAT THE COURSE I TOOK IN COLLEGE INCLUDED; EXCEPT FOR BRANAGH FILMS.
However, I doubt that what I learned as an undergrad, long ago, is even taught today to those in a Doctoral course; sadly.
Rational ones. The NY Slimes only seeks to divide, and this article about "OK Boomer" is already passe. What generation's young rebels haven't made fun of their elders?
Gen X here and I feel we're the buffer generation between the Boomers and our kids, the Millenials. "Gen Y" became "Millenials" and then there's "Gen Z" or "Zoomers". Zoomers are too young to remember 9/11 though they might have been alive during it. Remember that. If you're confused, here's a generational cohort guide.
At the moment, there are more Gen Xers than Boomers. Huh. But who's in charge? Duh. The Boomers, mostly. Why? Because they've been at their trades and businesses working hard for the past decades.
Just like when the Boomers were 20 and started out on their jobs. Older people ran the companies and were in the senior positions. Duh.
Written all the way back almost 20 years ago is an essay from the US Army War College Strategic Studies Institute by Dr. Leonard Wong called Generations Apart: Xers and Boomers in the Officer Corps. It's a 36 page pdf talking about the generational differences and communication techniques of the (then) young generation of officers and the older leadership. An extremely good read for those interested.
If you want something a little lighter (satire, people) then read about "Nation's Gen Xers Announce Plan To Just Sit Back And Enjoy Watching Boomers, Millennials Tear Each Other To Shreds".
What every older generation owes the younger generations is teach them the hard earned lessons of experience and mistakes.
Zoomers? These are the kids born into a world where the US has been in nearly 20-year wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. They're enlisting now and being commissioned in the Armed Forces.
The onus is on Boomers, Gen Xers, and even some millenials to explain this to the younger Americans.
Don't let these tools win by trying to divide the generations! We're pretty much all on the same boat, right?
MAGA!
Where We Go One, We Go All.
Yes, I was a computer programmer for 16 years. The #1 employer complaint was the inability for some to program, because the place I worked at was literally a revolving door. You don’t generally learn to write clearly in school; that comes with aptitude. But writing is not what I meant as being part of the “liberal arts” curriculum. I’m talking about theatre and stage, painting, classical literature, dance, etc. Have you ever heard to the term “art is for those who can appreciate it”? Some are just not cut out for it. Why should everyone have to be good at it to earn a degree that has nothing to do with it? Not only that, but be thrown into debt for half their lives paying for skills they will never need?
But BS degree requirements have long been more specialized than BA degrees to keep such classes to a minimum.
That was a fine pass reception, but then you fumbled the ball.
A person of normal intelligence is capable of learning to write clearly by the ninth grade.
The problem is the K-12 schools are graduating functional illiterates.
Debt of course makes no sense for most college students and a majority of college students probably shouldn’t be college students. Taxpayer funding is much of the problem.
And you are right about stupid people making poor programmers, no matter what level of education they have. There really is no need for college for a programming career in the modern era. Little that the smart can’t learn on their own. And programming is basically a trade.
“Ok, boomer!”
“”Ok, boomer!”?
“Well, you may be a nut job, but at least we know you not my offspring (tell your mom I was the guy with the red, white, and blue condom). “
Yes, a lot of programmers today are learning it on their own. It wasn’t always like that, however. Mainframes, for example. No one happens to own one privately. The market has changed, and not unexpectedly. How it changes is the unanticipated part.
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