Skip to comments.It’s Time For Republicans To STOP Whining About The ‘Process’ And Defend This President
Posted on 11/02/2019 5:46:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
After weeks of behind-closed doors testimony and years of hoping for this day, the Democratic-led House of Representatives finally passed an official vote formalizing its ongoing impeachment inquiry, thus paving the way for public hearings and testimony about whether or not President Donald Trump committed high crimes and misdemeanors in his July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
While the only bi-partisan aspect of that vote went to the nos, with two Democrats voting with the GOP, it looks like the wheels of impeachment are finally beginning to officially grind toward what we all knew, ever since Democrats won the House in 2018, would be its inevitable conclusion. We all knew it, we just didnt know exactly what the triggering event would be, what lame Trumpian malfeasance some pencil-necked Deep State whistleblower would point and shriek at as the final straw, the ultimate threat to our Democracy that they believe just might warrant enough GOP Well, I never! crowd support to topple Trump this time.
So, this was it, apparently. This phone call to Ukraines president, the one where Trump asked for an investigation into a possible crime possibly committed by someone named Biden, who may or may not face Trump in the general election a year and a half later. Oh, and for an investigation into 2016 election interference, because we cant forget whats REALLY offending Democrats, notwithstanding all their hysterics about the Bidens being untouchable and besides its been proven theyve never committed any crimes ever. Start looking there, and some of the wrong people might start getting indictments.
Whatever. I, for one, say good. After weeks of hearing Republicans whine and moan about Process! Process! Process! its time to put up or shut the hell up when it comes to defending President Trump.
Arent you tired of it? I mean, Steve Scalise is great, but going from complaining about the process before the resolution to now complaining about the process - albeit this time with Soviet-style props - established by the resolution itself is getting more than a little old. Put it this way. If someone were arrested in your town for, say, murder, then proceeded to have his attorney complain nonstop about the way the proceedings are being conducted, never once addressing the merits of the prosecutions case, would you be inclined to think the arrestee was innocent, or guilty and simply trying to mitigate the seemingly inevitable legal consequences?
Its not that there isnt a place to argue about process, but the focus should be on the fact that the accused is, in fact, INNOCENT of the bogus charges, which are more absurd than the ridiculous process ever was.
This is the United States of America, Scalise said Thursday. Dont run a sham process, a tainted process, like this resolution ensures. And it wasnt just Scalise. Republican politician after Republican politician, from Kevin McCarthy to Liz Cheney, were so busy over the past few weeks blasting the process, - i.e. the cards they were dealt when they lost in 2018 - that they seemed to neglect focusing on something they might actually succeed at, which is defending President Trump from these bogus charges. (And even if they have at some point defended Trump - and one or more of them they may have - those defenses are getting lost in the smoke of these useless process protests.)
Yes, the process sucks. I get it. But the charges suck more, a LOT more. Because theyre absurd, and bogus, and even dreaming of removing President Trump from office based on such a silly non-crime as this would be a joke, if anyone were laughing. You got a small win by getting the vote and making the hearing public. Congratulations. Did you really think these would-be Bolsheviks were going to give the minority party an even shake?
South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham showed us how its done in a Hannity appearance this week. Sure, he also blasted the unfair process, but he made my headline in part because he said Trump did nothing wrong.
This is an unfair process being driven by sore losers and there is not one vote in the United States Senate to impeach President Trump based on this phone call because he did nothing wrong, said Graham.
Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw got in the weeds with none other than CNNs Chris Cuomo, a liberal-leaning anchor who, in my opinion, doesnt get enough credit from the right for his solid questioning and debating skills. But Crenshaw got the best of Cuomo on this one. Watch how he steers the CNN host into the argument that Trumps lawbreaking - i.e. what were supposed to be removing a sitting president from office for - actually consisted of some obscure campaign finance violation.
Im not sure I agree with the premise that hes done something wrong, Crenshaw said after Cuomo tried to get him to agree that, while maybe Trump shouldnt be removed, what he did was still wrong. I understand that theres a theory about wrongdoing, but the facts dont back that up.
Crenshaw defended Trumps inquiry about Biden as something that, as a possible criminal violation, has a legitimate public interest, calling Cuomos assertion that Trump went after Biden because he thought it would be good for him an assumption that would require mind reading.
Thats a little bit of a game people play in politics, Cuomo said. You dont need to play that kind of game because you have reason on your side here, which is I think he had a legitimate public interest. Maybe, but it doesnt have to be his only interest.
Crenshaw wondered what the right answer would be if something is in the public interest but also good for the president, to which Cuomo appeared to appeal to vague campaign finance laws: Under the law you can look at the FEC guidelines about this if you have multiple points of interest in something and one of them helps you in the election, youve got trouble.
Now youre trying to make this a campaign finance law thing, and thats a stretch, said Crenshaw, giving the CNN anchor a skeptical groan. Thats an enormous its really difficult to make that kind of political leap.
Thats just one example, of course, and hopefully only one of many bold defenses to come. The point is, while not everything President Trump does or every word he utters is defensible, that July 25 phone call certainly is, in spades
I get it. The process is lame. Republicans cant call witnesses without Adam Schiffs approval. That sucks, but its the cards youve been dealt. Now play them, while youve still got a winning hand.
I’m not sure I get the point.... obviously a multi-front approach is required. But isn’t “whining about the process” (if one wants to call it that) part of the strategy of defending the President?
Criticizing the Stalinist kangaroo court of the commissars was a good tactical beginning. They don’t have the votes to stop the actual impeachment vote but they can harass and bleed the Democrats until they get to the Senate. Once in the Senate Trump and his lawyers will have full reign to argue that Trump as the chief executive of every Federal agency including Justice had every right and obligation to examine how and who was using the Ukraine as a prosecutor free corruption zone. Not only will Hunter Biden be called but Paul Pelosi , Nancy’s son, also a man with no energy expertise became somehow enriched in the Ukraine. They will testify or take the 5th. Either way they face indictment and arrest. If Nancy goes through with impeachment, her son will have severe problems. So will other Democrats. It will be interesting to see if Nancy tries to walk it back.
This is the GOP do nothing shuffle, led by Linda and the turtle. Bagpipes is ready to cut in when needed.
They are arguing about the specs of the gallows when the accused has yet to be found to have committed a crime.
Bureaucrats. What every totalitarian like Pelosi needs to grind people beneath her feet
There is a bad precedent being set. If your party loses the presidency and you control the house, you start impeachment...AUTOMATICALLY. Impeachment lives its Constitutional importance and becomes just another political tool. The Republicans must ignore this house process unless there is significant bipartisan support in the House.
STOP? They’re heavily invested in our demise.
List of grievances:
1) War (especially undeclared)
2) Debt slavery https://usdebtclock.org
3) Aiding and abetting invaders who harm our citizens...
100) (Your list may vary)
“Hell yeah...” they can’t even stand up to an arrogant, elitist, punk, POS GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN who wants “to take”...
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
I used to love Liz Cheney.....she’s John McCain in a skirt.
This article is a cheap rip-off of Rushs’ last Friday radio show. As usual, Rush is better. I’ve noticed that Townhall never has a truly original thought.
Totally agree. Follow President Trump’s lead:
1. Read the transcript!
2. Trump did nothing wrong!
End of story.
Its actually just a variation of the strategy Trump used to win in 2016, when he complained endlessly about how the election and the whole system of government was rigged against him and his supporters.
“Process” claims are grounds for dismissal without a trial in the Senate. The audience for those arguments are the squishy GOP Senators who don’t really like Trump all that much (e.g. Collins, Murkowski, etc.).
No , the Democrats would never Jail all Republicans if they managed to take complete control of the country ,D’oh
Because in another 20 years it's going to be game over. Maybe less.
Scott Morefield must’ve been listening to Rush last week! Rush pounded this point home for two days!
Spines are hard to come by in D.C. to many to one party tow names members.
This is the GOP do nothing shuffle, led by Linda and the turtle. Bagpipes is ready to cut in when needed.
Spot on. All we get from the GOP is gum flapping with no substantive support of POTUS. Would Harry Reid have sat in his Majority Leader office doing nothing if a GOP House had done this to Obama? Not in a million years.
Theres too much use of personality hate Trump preferences as the excuse for quote, impeachment, unquote. Its a distraction from the real reason. What should be looked into and brought to public attention is the connection to the corruption used by the swamp creatures Trump would put a screeching halt to. And offered as the real reason why they are going after Trump.
All your points are valid and that simply means this will never get to a senate trial - you can bet your bank on that
Our great and wonderful president Donald J Trump has the best lawyers on the planet and you can bet that he knows the long game he knows every game and hes just letting the Democrats hang themselves right now
Americans understand the simple concept that process leads to substance......
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