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Colonel testifies he raised concerns about Ukraine, Trump
AP ^ | October 29th, 2019 | By LISA MASCARO, MARY CLARE JALONICK and COLLEEN LONG

Posted on 10/29/2019 4:57:49 PM PDT by Mariner

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defying White House orders, an Army officer serving with President Donald Trump’s National Security Council testified to impeachment investigators Tuesday that he twice raised concerns over the administration’s push to have Ukraine investigate Democrats and Joe Biden.

Alexander Vindman, a lieutenant colonel who served in Iraq and later as a diplomat, is the first official to testify who actually heard Trump’s July 25 call with new Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. He reported his concerns to the NSC’s lead counsel, he said in his prepared remarks.

His arrival in military blue, with medals , created a striking image at the Capitol as the impeachment inquiry reached deeper into the White House.

“I was concerned by the call,” Vindman said, according to his testimony obtained by The Associated Press. “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine.”

Vindman, a 20-year military officer, added to the mounting evidence from other witnesses -- diplomats, defense and former administration officials -- who are corroborating the initial whistleblower’s complaint against Trump and providing new details ahead of a House vote in the impeachment inquiry.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alexandervindman; insubordination; militarylaw; ucmj; uml
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To: Mariner

It was a show.

That’s all it was.

Complete with costume and a chorus.


21 posted on 10/29/2019 5:14:54 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SkyDancer; GreyFriar
Hopefully, this dude’s career is over. And, that Admiral is still under the UCMJ. Someone should pull him aside, and tell him, he is not allowed to show open contempt to the CIC. He must have been another Obama appointee. At that time, I doubt anyone made General/Admiral, without being an Obama fan.

USAF E-7, retired. 👍 But my son is a USAF Officer. 👍

22 posted on 10/29/2019 5:15:14 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I do not care if some do not like that. It will NEVER be my problem)
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To: Mariner
"...His arrival in military blue, with medals..."

I view people like him, regardless of his military service, as a Domestic Enemy of The United States.

Benedict Arnold served his country until he betrayed it. What this person is doing is no different.

23 posted on 10/29/2019 5:17:40 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: SkyDancer
"They’re going to keep this nonsense up for the next five years Trump is in office."

At this point liberal propaganda is just white noise, easily ignored.

Ratcheting up to a dull roar in 2020 may well prove comedic relief.

24 posted on 10/29/2019 5:18:07 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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To: Mariner

First we had CONCERN TROLLS, now we have CONCERN WITNESSES.

My only question is... WTF.


25 posted on 10/29/2019 5:18:27 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: Mariner

Oh my he is concerned, let’s impeach the President over his concern. What a jerkwad.


26 posted on 10/29/2019 5:19:10 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Mariner

So, the essence of his testimony is that he had “concerns’ about the conversation? Just another a$$hole trying to run his own agenda.


27 posted on 10/29/2019 5:19:44 PM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept)
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To: stylin19a

Trump never “demanded” anything! This guy should be prosecuted for lying!


28 posted on 10/29/2019 5:19:51 PM PDT by Prince of Space (WhereÂ’s Hunter?)
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To: Mariner

I agree. When this is over he needs to be dishonorably discharged.


29 posted on 10/29/2019 5:20:19 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Mark17

Hopefully, this dude’s career is over.
******************************
I strongly suspect it was already approaching being over.


30 posted on 10/29/2019 5:20:28 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; All

Vindman’s opening statement was released yesterday. It’s dated today.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/5197-read-vindman-s-opening-stateme/451770f94b62c504f723/optimized/full.pdf?smid=nytcore-ios-share

a lot of blah,blah,blah until page 4.
his blah,blah, blah about the 07/25 call starts on page 5


31 posted on 10/29/2019 5:20:30 PM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Mariner

Ok, sir, where is your memorandum for the record?


32 posted on 10/29/2019 5:20:42 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Bavarian Clockworks to name their next cuckoo clock The Warren!!!)
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To: stylin19a

I think his point is that Trump was talking about Biden in the call and that was his concern. The transcript confirms Biden was talked about. I do not think it is a crime or a high crimes. But, hey what do I know.


33 posted on 10/29/2019 5:23:24 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Mariner

What the hell business to ALL these people have listening to our President’s phone calls !??? He has a right to his privacy on phone calls as we all do.

CHANGE THIS ASAP

No listen-in’s


34 posted on 10/29/2019 5:26:35 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: stylin19a

Where this guys concern when it was President Obama, FBI, CIA, NSC, and others when they investigated CANDIDATE Trump, a US citizen with the help of foreign governments and the Ukraine.


35 posted on 10/29/2019 5:27:53 PM PDT by Engedi (ui)
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To: Mariner

So he’s concerned. So what?


36 posted on 10/29/2019 5:28:43 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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To: blueunicorn6

I barfed reading this : “His arrival in military blue, with medals , created a striking image . . . “

Because image is sooooo important.


37 posted on 10/29/2019 5:28:49 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: GreyFriar

As a retired Army officer, I see this LTC as letting his position and self-importance go to his head. And possibly let his partisan political views take control of his actions.


Somebody should ask the good Colonel how he feels about the broken mil surplus garbage the kenyan sent to Ukraine as Russian rockets rained on their cities and the latest model Russian tanks rumbled through their countryside.


38 posted on 10/29/2019 5:31:02 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Engedi

Where this guys concern when it was President Obama,


Where was this guy when the kenyan was busy ignoring the Russian invasion of Ukraine and bullying them to surrender at the Minsk agreements?


39 posted on 10/29/2019 5:31:58 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: HotKat

I guess my question is,

Was he there as a representative of the military or a representative of the State Department?


40 posted on 10/29/2019 5:32:00 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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