Posted on 10/24/2019 11:07:31 AM PDT by Hojczyk
The Republican Party risks exile for longer than it has endured in the modern era if, in the absence of incontrovertible evidence of actual high crimes and misdemeanors, it deserts President Trump during the campaign to remove him from office. Democrats are pursuing impeachment because they obviously fear that they cannot defeat him at the ballot box in 2020.
The advantage of talking with radio listeners and not merely lecturing readers or tweeting at followers or opponents is that you hear from people who arent among the Manhattan-D.C. media elites who overwhelmingly hate Trump.
First, no quid pro quo, much less an illegitimate one, has been proved about Trumps dealings with Ukraine.
Second, quid pro quos have always been a feature of U.S. foreign policy from the long-ago Louisiana Purchase to more recently President Barack Obamas sending the Iranian regime $1.7 billion in cash, which was central to the controversial U.S.-Iran nuclear deal. Quid pro quos are sometimes excellent and obvious, sometimes controversial, sometimes illegal.
Third, if a quid pro quo involving Trump is established, and the agreement it refers to was the leveraging of military or civilian aid to Ukraine for assistance in the investigation of the attack on the 2016 presidential election, that would not be illegitimate.
Fourth, the impeachment inquiry cannot be allowed to block or overshadow the deep dive by Attorney General William P. Barr and U.S. Attorney John Durham into a suspected handful of anti-Trump zealots at senior levels in the FBI, the intelligence community or within the White House. If Congresss attack on Trump is permitted to subvert the Justice Department investigation before its findings are publicly aired, the Republican establishment in Washington will simply be torched by the GOP grass roots.
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Seems to me the best opportunity to launch a new main political party will be in the run-up to 2024.
Trump can endorse his successor before the GOP primaries start. He can say that his presidency is winding down but the movement has work to do, and the GOP isn’t the vehicle for it.
Start a new political party and give existing GOP Senators and Congressmen the opportunity to get that party’s endorsement. The party will run its own Presidential candidate and down-ballot candidates.
Existing GOP elected officials will either remain GOP Inc or step forward into the 21st Century US conservative political party.
It’s really risky and might likely flop, but after eight years of Trump that leaves conservative voters happy, that would be the best time to try.
The greatest American George Washington warned America about political parties. I have no trust or faith in what is the swamp named after Washington. I only vote GOP because the alternative is worse.
If they were ever really with us.
It’s all in a state of flux right now. Necessary and overdue. Cannot be undone. Generational.
Too bad the inquiry isnt in the open...then we could make some decisions on the Republicans.
Post-Republican era: 3 parties. Progressive. Center-swamp. Faithful-and-Free.
Thats my guess.
I posted this before, but Ill say it again here...
The GOP is at a crossroads. If Trump goes down due to Republican collusion, the party will be decimated for generations. It will truly become a non-entity.
But then, there are those in the Republican Party who seem to be fine with that path...
Worse, Trumps troubles wont be over after he leaves office. The vindictive left will pursue him relentlessly until hes jailed. They wont give up. He will be destroyed if for only having the temerity to run for president to try to bring us back from the brink of destruction.
It is truly a sad time we live in.
And we have NO ONE to stand up for our side...
They should already understand this. The Dems used impeachment to throw out a Republican President who had just won a landslide election. In contrast, the Dems stood foursquare behind Bill Clinton, who really had committed an impeachable offense by lying under oath to a federal judge. Don't be fooled twice.
The Republicans were cheering Robert Mueller when the witch hunt was going on.
They don’t care, they are already planning for the demise of the GOP by supporting amnesty for illegal aliens and a permanent majority for Democrats.
As long as the get enough fraudulently documented foreigners to outvote the citizens, that’s all that matters.
That is the only path to the New World Order in which the USA is subsumed to the UN.
I didn’t abandon the GOP, they abandoned me.
I am not totally gone, but they cut Trump loose, which appears what they’ve been in the process of doing for 2+yrs now, and I”M GONE!!!!!!
Maybe check the money that’s come in because of President Trump....and the wins wherever he has gone to support someone.
Went to the store today and bought a gallon of milk. I was forced to pay them money before I could leave the store. Just another example of quid pro quo.
If they didn’t get the money until they delivered a full report on the 2016 events, it would be totally different.....
'Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide.'- Abraham Lincoln, "Lyceum" Speech
Lincoln then warned that a tyrant could overtake the American political system from within. He said:
'It is to deny what the history of the world tells us is true, to suppose that men of ambition and talents will not continue to spring up amongst us. And when they do, they will as naturally seek the gratification of their ruling passion as others have done before them. The question then is, Can that gratification be found in supporting and maintaining an edifice that has been erected by others? Most certainly it cannot. Many great and good men, sufficiently qualified for any task they should undertake, may ever be found whose ambition would aspire to nothing beyond a seat in Congress, a gubernatorial or a presidential chair; but such belong not to the family of the lion or the tribe of the eagle. What! think you these places would satisfy an Alexander, a Caesar, or a Napoleon? Never! Towering genius disdains a beaten path. It seeks regions hitherto unexplored. It sees no distinction in adding story to story upon the monuments of fame erected to the memory of others. It denies that it is glory enough to serve under any chief. It scorns to tread in the footsteps of any predecessor, however illustrious. It thirsts and burns for distinction; and if possible, it will have it, whether at the expense of emancipating slaves or enslaving freemen. Is it unreasonable, then, to expect that some man possessed of the loftiest genius, coupled with ambition sufficient to push it to its utmost stretch, will at some time spring up among us? And when such an one does, it will require the people to be united with each other, attached to the government and laws, and generally intelligent, to successfully frustrate his designs. Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm, yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down.'- Abraham Lincoln, "Lyceum" Speech
And...our country.
If the left succeeds, Trump should run third party.
Of course...."You Froggies give us the land and we'll give you the gold.
The Establishment Republicans have already lost me irretrievably. I will NEVER again support the likes of Romney, George Bush, McCain, or...who’s that disgusting man from Wisconsin?...never again!
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