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Is It Time For America To Begin Decoupling From Communist China?
The Federalist ^ | 10/22/2019 | Ben Weingarten

Posted on 10/22/2019 8:20:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/22/2019 8:20:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t Pat Buchanan try to talk Nixon out of kow towing to China?


2 posted on 10/22/2019 8:23:46 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: SeekAndFind

China is capitalist, not communist. It shed communism in favor of capitalism decades ago.

It is one party rule but communism is not its guiding economic model. Private enterprise is a significant factor in the Chinese economic way of life. The government holds onto only the critical companies...and the press.


3 posted on 10/22/2019 8:25:24 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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China is State Capitalist, the State provides and controls the Capital.


4 posted on 10/22/2019 8:27:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good article. I would say a decoupling is overdue.


5 posted on 10/22/2019 8:28:08 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: gunsequalfreedom

If China isn’t Communist like you say, then how come the people of Hong Kong are protesting?


6 posted on 10/22/2019 8:28:27 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

RE: China is capitalist, not communist. It shed communism in favor of capitalism decades ago.

I would say that this country’s government is more - FASCISTIC than Communist.


7 posted on 10/22/2019 8:29:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: If China isn’t Communist like you say, then how come the people of Hong Kong are protesting?

Because they do not want to be ruled by a FASCIST government.


8 posted on 10/22/2019 8:29:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: EvilCapitalist

Why did the colonists protest against the British?

It’s about control, these things have been around long before Karl Marx came on the scene.


9 posted on 10/22/2019 8:30:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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'Why did the colonists protest against the British?'

The crown would have loved the powers we have 'given' to .gov these days.

10 posted on 10/22/2019 8:33:26 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You’re fricking clueless about China. Communism is everything in China - it controls every thought and action of nearly everyone in China 24/7/365. From the low level graft, the structuring of every company, and the high price paid by even the smallest business there.

Your view is the same head in the sand idiocy that got the world here.

How many times have you been to China? Where? I’ll bet none.


11 posted on 10/22/2019 8:36:20 AM PDT by datura
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To: SeekAndFind

The biggest problem are the elites in the USA, the business owners who sold America out.

My boss says the guys in China are his half brothers..yep.


12 posted on 10/22/2019 8:38:09 AM PDT by Uversabound (Might does not make right, but it does enforce the commonly recognized rights of each succeeding gen)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
China is capitalist, not communist. It shed communism in favor of capitalism decades ago.

It is closer to Fascist than capitalist.

There is no real rule of law or security of property rights in China.

The major businesses are all expected to follow the government line.

All Communist countries end up with the party members being rich at the expense of everyone else.

13 posted on 10/22/2019 8:42:31 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: SeekAndFind

China is the money behind the impeach Trump.


14 posted on 10/22/2019 8:47:50 AM PDT by jonose
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To: gunsequalfreedom

While I agree that their economic system is an example of using Capitalism as a cash cow, don’t kid yourself that China isn’t a Communist nation at it’s heart. It certainly is.

It has a central committee, a totalitarian stance, is able to order it’s citizens to comply with demands or else, and is perfectly willing to kill people in mass if they step out of line.


15 posted on 10/22/2019 8:49:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes!!!. We should accept the failed results of a 35 years plus experiment. If you trade with communists and give them an obvious advantage they will not turn into capitalists. Just cut off all trade with china. Give our allies 1 year to break off all ties with china and if they do not cut off all trade with them too. We can manufacture our own garbage if need be.


16 posted on 10/22/2019 9:02:01 AM PDT by cdpap
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To: Theodore R.

Nixon / China

At the time we were at the height of the Cold War. The USSR was semi-closed, and China was closed iron tight.

Here was a body of one billion people on Russia’s flank. Nixon viewed opening up China as a strategic move based on developing ties with a massive body of people in close proximity with Russia.

Knowing what China was up to, was a decent goal to achieve. Developing “some” exchanges would have been decent. What took place decades later wouldn’t be.

For what it was, it was a decent move. We’re talking in the early 1970s. The USSR wouldn’t fall for two more decades.

No matter what Nixon did, he didn’t move all our manufacturing off shore and gift China with almost our entire patent database, at least as it relates to manufacturing, and even space related tech.

It wasn’t until two decades later that the U. S. developed a policy of just throwing trillions of U.S. dollars at China and gifting them with half to a full century of technology, jumping China ahead a number of decades in it’s capabilities.

Translate that out to creating a strategic global enemy that had one goal in mind, to become the world’s dominant hegemonic power.

GHW Bush, and Bill Clinton are the two people I see as facilitation this reality in China. Of course GW and Obadingo didn’t lift a finger to fix things.

Not until Trump have we addressed what has been/is taking place in China since the early 1990s, and what never should have taken place with it.

I’ve numerous times addressed our relationship with China as perhaps the biggest nation to nation blunder in the existence of man.


17 posted on 10/22/2019 9:04:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: SeekAndFind
An absolutely immoral government that sells the organs then incinerates the bodies of their political prisoners must be 'decoupled' from us.

IMHO, our nuclear capability (and mass firearm ownership) is the only thing that prevents a Chinese invasion.
18 posted on 10/22/2019 9:05:03 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: cdpap

The US can opener from the 50s is better than the
Chinese one I bought 5 years ago

Have a scrap metal drive for Chinese junk
to make anti-Chinese munitions and other useful
stuff melt it down
and see how much good stuff is left over


19 posted on 10/22/2019 9:13:48 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: cdpap

The US can opener from the 50s is better than the
Chinese one I bought 5 years ago

Have a scrap metal drive for Chinese junk
to make anti-Chinese munitions and other useful
stuff melt it down
and see how much good stuff is left over


20 posted on 10/22/2019 9:14:17 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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