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My initial thoughts are that the forces that are “fighting” after the agreed upon 120hr “cease-fire” or “pause” in fighting may not have got “email” from their commander or more likely are acting independent of their government?

Or the “cease-fire” / “pause” was not agreed to by the forces on the ground. ISIS or ISIS sympathizers or just independent fighters stepping in to fill the leadership void created?

1 posted on 10/18/2019 1:33:20 AM PDT by FRinCanada2
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If they don’t stop, then how about we drop a nice big MOAB on their sorry asses!


2 posted on 10/18/2019 1:38:14 AM PDT by princess leah (Princess Leah)
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No big deal. Except for this one location there is calm according to the article. It can take time for the orders to filter down to all the commanders and then on to all troop locations.


4 posted on 10/18/2019 1:54:14 AM PDT by billyboy15
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https://twitter.com/edemarche/status/1185108055031242759?s=21


7 posted on 10/18/2019 2:09:31 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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journalists have reported continued fighting in the Syrian town of Ras al-Ayn on Friday morning

After ABC deliberately aired that fake attack by Turkey, I'm hesitant to believe anything anymore that is being reported from Syria.

This morning on Fox they showed smoke rising from some Syrian town, claiming it was from a shelling after the cease fire was announced. How do we know the video wasn't taken last week? And why only a couple locations where smoke was rising? It just didn't make sense.....

11 posted on 10/18/2019 3:08:56 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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Or maybe the Kurds just don’t want to be forced to leave?


16 posted on 10/18/2019 3:48:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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>>>Or the “cease-fire” / “pause” was not agreed to by the forces on the ground

The agreement reached was between the US and Turkey. The Kurds were not part of the deal. The deal essentially gives Turkey all that it sought from the start.

After the Kurdish forces are cleared from the safe zone, Turkey has committed to a permanent cease-fire but is under no obligation to withdraw its troops. In addition, the deal gives Turkey relief from sanctions the administration had imposed and threatened to impose since the invasion began, meaning there will be no penalty for the operation.


20 posted on 10/18/2019 4:31:58 AM PDT by oincobx
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Or there are various factions labeled “Kurds” in the area; those allied with the USA, ie. the “Syrian” Kurds will leave as agreed but the PKK will not. PKK groups are actually the target of the Turkish government, not the others. [PKK is on our government’s list of terrorist groups.]

Now will the media explain what is happening on the ground? My guess is that today we will probably hear Turkey’s agreement yesterday was deceitful despite the clear language in the announcements by VP Pense and the Turkish government to distinguish the factions in the agreement.

The President explained this in a press conference earlier in the week but it wasn’t broadcast except on Fox. Even Fox is not following through with it in their reporting.


21 posted on 10/18/2019 5:03:55 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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Or there are various factions labeled “Kurds” in the area; those allied with the USA, ie. the “Syrian” Kurds will leave as agreed but the PKK will not. PKK groups are actually the target of the Turkish government, not the others. [PKK is on our government’s list of terrorist groups.]

Now will the media explain what is happening on the ground? Today we will probably hear Turkey’s agreement yesterday was deceitful despite the clear language in the announcements by VP Pense and the Turkish government to distinguish the factions in the agreement.


22 posted on 10/18/2019 5:04:26 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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From OAN's main page top story,

Kurdish officials are saying they will abide by the terms of the U.S.-Turkish ceasefire in Syria, except for one provision of that deal. The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) said Thursday they will observe the ceasefire in the towns of Ras Alain and Tal Abyad. The SDF did not agree to withdraw Kurdish militias 20 miles from the Turkish border. Kurdish officials said they will continue working with Russia and President Bashar Al-Assad to defend their territories.

23 posted on 10/18/2019 5:18:57 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Just glad our people are not in this quagmire any more, Thank you President Trump. Promise made, promise kept. Now let’s get our asses out of Saudi Arabia, where we are not appreciated.


24 posted on 10/18/2019 5:20:42 AM PDT by wetgundog
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Here’s our first clue: ‘journalists say...’

They just revel in ANY little manufactured crisis they can invent to slam our President.

*SPIT*


26 posted on 10/18/2019 5:26:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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Perhaps it is just the Chicago of the area?


30 posted on 10/18/2019 5:57:32 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Let the Russians deal with it.


31 posted on 10/18/2019 6:01:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Oh looky. Muslims are killing each other again. What a shock.


33 posted on 10/18/2019 6:04:00 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Fauxnews mentions it came from reuters but didn’t give a link. Odd. I went to reuters and saw only one Syria article on the front page and this is certainly front page news. From that article

“”” Reuters journalists at the border heard machine-gun fire and shelling and saw smoke rising from the Syrian border battlefield city of Ras al Ain early on Friday, although the sounds of fighting later subsided by mid-morning. “””

“”” The SDF said air and artillery attacks continued to target its positions as well as civilian targets in Ral al Ain: “Turkey is violating the ceasefire agreement by continuing to attack the town since last night,” SDF spokesman Mustafa Bali tweeted. “””

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa/shells-still-fall-in-northeast-syria-despite-pause-agreement-idUSKBN1WX0GT

“The SDF said”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces

an alliance in the Syrian Civil War[107] composed primarily of Kurdish, Arab, and Assyrian/Syriac militias, as well as some smaller Armenian, Turkmen and Chechen forces.[108][8] The SDF is militarily led by the People’s Protection Units (YPG), a mostly Kurdish militia.[109] Founded in October 2015, the SDF states its mission as fighting to create a secular, democratic and decentralized Syria. The updated December 2016 constitution of the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (NES) names the SDF as its official defence force.[110]

(The SDF is militarily led by the People’s Protection Units (YPG))

(an arm of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is designated as a terrorist group by the Federal government of the United States.)

People’s Protection Units = YPG & PKK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units

According to United States Army Special Forces Commander General Raymond A. Thomas at the Aspen Security Forum in July 2017, the SDF is a PR-friendly name for the YPG, which Thomas personally suggested because the YPG is considered an arm of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is designated as a terrorist group by the Federal government of the United States.[111][112] American Defense Secretary Ashton Carter confirmed “substantial ties” between the PYD/YPG and the PKK.[113] Testifying to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Congress, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, the top U.S. intelligence official, explicitly defined the YPG as the “PKK’s militia force in Syria”

So “the SDF said”(and reuters listened) and the SDF is led by the YPG which is an arm of the PKK who are the communists that obama the Marxist trained and armed

What a mess


36 posted on 10/18/2019 6:16:08 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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