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$2 million study looks at hyperloop – 700 mph transit – that would cross Pennsylvania
The Patriot-News ^ | September 26, 2019 | Jana Benscoter

Posted on 10/13/2019 8:19:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Will a hyperloop work in Pennsylvania?

That’s the question officials from legislative and executive branches, statewide agencies, organizations and departments, as well as a handful of private business leaders are trying to answer.

Fifty people, invited to a workshop at Dixon University in Harrisburg on Wednesday, met to talk about the possibility of building a hyperloop system in the commonwealth. The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission has until April 2020 to complete a $2 million state-legislative commissioned study on its viability.

Media wasn’t permitted to attend the invitation-only meeting.

According to the turnpike’s research, a hyperloop combines a magnetic levitation train and a low pressure transit tube to propel “pods or capsules” at high rates of speed. It can travel up to 700 mph.

There are currently no hyperloop systems constructed worldwide, but the first to-scale hyperloop is expected to break ground in 2020-21 in either India or United Arab Emirates. The challenge here is how well it will work on Pennsylvania’s terrain, said Barry Altman, the state’s hyperloop project manager, during a phone interview before Wednesday’s workshop.

"We recognize that on the front end, geography is a key issue,” Altman said. "Pennsylvania is not ideal for hyperloop, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be built.” He acknowledged those factors could make building one in the state more expensive and longer to complete than in other states. No cost estimates have been discussed publicly at this point.

State Rep. Aaron Kaufer, a Luzerne County Republican, attended the meeting. He spearheaded and co-sponsored House Bill 1057, legislation that directed the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission to conduct the study. AECOM, a Los-Angeles, California-based engineering firm, is analyzing what it would take to build a hyperloop tube that would run from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg to Philadelphia and then north toward Luzerne County.

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If it’s maintained as well as the Turnpike people will be terrified to go anywhere near it.


41 posted on 10/14/2019 6:25:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: cymbeline

So a Dem Voter from inner-city Philly can cast 10 ballots in 10 different counties on Election Day.


42 posted on 10/14/2019 6:26:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: cymbeline

It’ll never fly.


43 posted on 10/14/2019 6:27:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
After it is approved, planning and approval of numerous entities will take 10 years. It will take 15 years and only cost 900 billion dollars to build. The federal government under President Newsom, will pay for 99.5% of the system.

After it begins running, technical difficulties will happen (that cause several accidents that cost the lives of 250 passengers lives) and modifications will cost only 300 billion and it should be ready to run in 5 years. That is, of course, if the test runs should determine if it works correctly.

Go for it! We'll all be dead from climate change.

44 posted on 10/14/2019 6:58:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
After it is approved, planning and approval of numerous entities will take 10 years. It will take 15 years and only cost 900 billion dollars to build. The federal government under President Newsom, will pay for 99.5% of the system.

After it begins running, technical difficulties will happen (that cause several accidents that cost the lives of 250 passengers lives) and modifications will cost only 300 billion and it should be ready to run in 5 years. That is, of course, if the test runs should determine if it works correctly.

Go for it! We'll all be dead from climate change.

45 posted on 10/14/2019 6:58:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Accelerating and decelerating will kill passengers, especially given the short distances (for 700mph) being traveled.

Also, the sound barrier will be shattered endlessly, which I doubt will please the neighbors.


46 posted on 10/14/2019 7:01:55 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: jz638; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I look forward to the huge liability bills when the first shipment of cargo breaks it’s mooring in the acceleration stage, crashes into everything behind it, and an entire car full turns to rubble. If it is supposed to be a half-hour trip Pittsburgh to Philadelphia, they are looking at some hellacious acceleration profiles.


47 posted on 10/14/2019 7:07:06 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I don't think I want to go 700 MPH. 😧
48 posted on 10/14/2019 8:40:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: freedumb2003

“Worse, how many people WANT to go from Pittsburgh to Philly in ANY length of time?”

I have never been to either but I did know some great guys from Pennsylvania back in my Navy days. Judging from comments on this forum I would imagine that anyone who could see how I live in SC would possibly NEVER want to go back to Pittsburgh or Philadelphia.
I have driven through the state from South to North on an interstate highway ending up in Erie, Pa and I was amazed by all the expanses of wide open country and when stopping for gas I saw what could have been groups of good old boys in the Carolinas or Georgia wearing Carhartt and driving 4WD pickups. I was tempted to stop and ask if there were any openings for an old mule skinner from the cradle of the confederacy. I have known three or four men in my life who were actually named John Hancock and one was a country boy from Pennsylvania, we were barracksmates on Treasure Island and both wound up in Keflavik, Iceland. We were not best buddies but I have not forgotten him, he was real people of the best sort.


49 posted on 10/14/2019 9:38:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I need some green first and then we'll talk a new deal!http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3763)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They could be engineered to fly at 700 and still be subsonic but the fuel costs would be a tiny bit on the high side and would have to begin deceleration before reaching that speed on a short flight but I’m sure that would be at least as practical as the other goofy idea.

By the way I thought a few years ago that all the new modes of communication were supposed to eliminate the need for super fast transportation. Aren’t we going to be able to simulate gatherings of people without moving their physical bodies?


50 posted on 10/14/2019 9:50:57 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I need some green first and then we'll talk a new deal!http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3763)
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To: RipSawyer

>>I have never been to either but I did know some great guys from Pennsylvania back in my Navy days. Judging from comments on this forum I would imagine that anyone who could see how I live in SC would possibly NEVER want to go back to Pittsburgh or Philadelphia.<<

I spent over a year in the Burgh and it was truly wonderful.

You speak of people but not places. MUI (admittedly 2nd hand) Philly is one step away from Detroit/Chicago.

I am sure there are people in PGH who have relatives in Philly and vice versa but for the most part, from what I recall, PGH people stay as far from Philly as possible (across the state seems to work nicely).


51 posted on 10/14/2019 10:07:50 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: RipSawyer
I thought a few years ago that all the new modes of communication were supposed to eliminate the need for super fast transportation. Aren’t we going to be able to simulate gatherings of people without moving their physical bodies?

It's ironic...businesses have embraced high-speed electronic communications and now have employees dispersed all over the world. I've been with companies with exec staff located all over the country. They occasionally fly in and press the flesh.

But government? No way in hell. They need to have their physical concentration to maintain their power and be near birds of a feather. The liberals have been yammering "CHANGE!!" for decades, but the most change-resistant, most ossified organization on the entire planet is the U.S. federal government.

52 posted on 10/14/2019 10:34:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: MortMan
If it accelerated at the same rate as (say) a Corvette, it would reach 700 MPH in under 30 seconds. About 6 miles would be required for both acceleration and deceleration.

The idea is to keep it below the speed of sound (775 mph at ordinary pressures, less in a partial vacuum). There are plenty of reasons this tech might never work -- those (acceleration and deceleration) aren't among them.

53 posted on 10/14/2019 11:04:38 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You won’t. As conceived at this time, it will be a system that’s strictly for freight.


54 posted on 10/14/2019 11:19:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: cymbeline

Dunno why that one has never been thought of before. *shrug*


55 posted on 10/14/2019 11:21:34 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Yep! Reduce the rampant crime in Philly, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh by spreading it out uniformly over the entire state...

Vote at 2-3 Philly voting places then zoom to Harrisburg and vote 2-3 more times... Same concept beginning at both Pittsburgh and Harrisburg and working eastward...

Clearly a win-win idea for the commies now in control of PA...

56 posted on 10/14/2019 11:38:06 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: SuperLuminal

OK, once again, if you read the entire article, you would realize that this is a freight-only concept. The keepin’ it realers, WT’s and other people engaging in crimes would have to be stowaways, with a good chance they wouldn’t even survive the trip.


57 posted on 10/14/2019 11:47:10 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

If it accelerates/decelerates like a Corvette, the material being carried will - at some point - bust loose. Perhaps not on the first runs, but at some point it WILL happen.

I will admit I did not look up the speed of sound. Wouldn’t lower pressure, given constant temp, lower the speed of sound, rather than raise it?


58 posted on 10/14/2019 11:50:04 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: MortMan

I’m not denying the huge engineering challenges — just saying that it’s all within the parameters of the laws of physics. And, yes, Murphy’s Law trumps those; so a lot could go wrong. You’re right about the speed of sound decreasing with decreasing speeds — that’s what I thought I said before.


59 posted on 10/14/2019 2:52:29 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"...this is a freight-only concept...

Hmmm... That will probably be attacked as "racist"...

As for freight... It will be a toss-up as to whether a freight hyper-loop or a freight teleportation system is operational first... Or at all...

IAC, I'll vote against it if it would result in my real estate taxes on my other house (in the hills SE of Uniontown) go up to pay for it...

60 posted on 10/14/2019 2:53:08 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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