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What Successful Women Should Know about Love and Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | October 10, 2019 | Katie Yoder

Posted on 10/11/2019 4:52:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

Successful women face special barriers in love and marriage, according to one relationship coach. But that doesn’t mean they can’t still strive for a happily ever after.

On October 9, the Washington Examiner published an opinion piece on, “Why super-successful women struggle in love.” Relationship expert and author Suzanne Venker claimed that “few, if any, women” can have both “power in the world” and “power in bed.” While she backed up her arguments, her piece left something to be desired by women: encouragement.

Venker began by referencing a Wall Street Journal piece, arguing that “As women have become more and more rich, love has indeed become more and more elusive.”

She pointed to an email about one of the women dealing with this very problem – written by the woman’s mother.

“I’d like to talk to you about my daughter who’s a high achiever,” the mom began. “She’s a thirty-eight-year-old, well-educated (two Ivy League schools), creative, intelligent, sophisticated, loving, successful, attractive, with a model-like body, and surprisingly can’t find a desired partner.”

While previously “she wasted many years on several senseless relationships,” her daughter is “extremely unhappy that she doesn’t have a partner,” or children.

In response, Venker urged that not only do successful single women struggle, but also women who serve as the primary breadwinner. There are many reasons why “love becomes a struggle the more successful women become,” she said, including the “pursuit of a post-secondary education and career.”

“Jumping in full throttle and making work the center of one’s life, as young women are encouraged to do, invariably means this group will be unable to take advantage of their greatest marital bargaining power,” she said.

That main “bargaining power” appeared to be beauty.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: baloney; boysclub; love; marriage; mgtow; pua; redpill; slutwalk; success
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To: Buttons12
"when a man hears"
I doubt that has happened yet.

141 posted on 10/11/2019 8:15:11 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Kaslin

Per other comments, I went back and looked closely at the lead picture.

At first, I only glanced at the picture, read the excerpt, and registered the image as presumably portraying an unusually attractive late-30s woman in a showcase of high urban chic furniture & decorations, radiating pristine & go-getter.

Funny how one’s memory can be corrupted by expectation. The article spoke of a woman who had her act together, implicitly seeking to marry up from an already high status.

I looked at the picture again, in detail. The image actually evokes, when examined, a lower-middle-class (if not poor) teenage girl filled with hope & angst, dressed to overly attract (see: stiletto heels), while the room is filled with hand-me-down or bargain furniture, low-end art, peeling wallpaper (!), and punctuated by an enormous collection of unused teddy bears. Thru the door we see decor doesn’t get any better elsewhere.

If that’s the lady the article is talking about, no wonder she’s having trouble finding a serious mate. At late 30s, any prospective “acceptable” mate would expect her to seriously have her act together, live as a competent adult, and show the world “her space” via modern living room - not an ‘80s child’s bedroom.

Upshot: she’s a child.

A 38 year old poor teenager, wondering why her prince hasn’t come.


142 posted on 10/11/2019 8:18:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Cecily
Women used to know better than to waste lots of time with unsuitable men.

Women used to know better than to give away their power (access to their bodies) to every boy they meet.

The supply now exceeds the demand.

143 posted on 10/11/2019 8:20:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: lodi90
28 is the wall???? Silly. 30 year old women have no problem finding men to partner with. I don’t know what planet you live on. Women pick men. Not the other way around.

A woman is only able to "pick" men from out of the set of men who have any interest in committing to her. That set shrinks every year she goes past 30.

The set of available men, who may have an interest in marrying her, and who she may find desirable, is MUCH smaller at 35 than it was at 25, as the good men get snatched up by women who actually wanted marriage.

144 posted on 10/11/2019 8:23:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: CaptainK
And a proper home cooked breakfast is 10x better than anything IHOP could offer up.

I should throw in that men should learn how to cook as well. One way to really impress a woman is to cook a meal for her. And I don't mean just slapping burgers on an outdoor grill or sticking something in a microwave. I've been happily married 30+ years and our early dates consisted of us cooking for each other.

Believe it or not, most women don't want to become a surrogate "mother" for their men. That means not leaving your dirty laundry on the floor for her to pick up, cleaning up after yourself and cooking a meal for her at least every now and then.

146 posted on 10/11/2019 8:26:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: yldstrk

Said Miss America is, indeed, living the dream. He’s a kind man with a good income, works from home, works out keeping up with her still-great looks, just gave her a magazine-style dream kitchen, etc. Model family. (Have their heated/stressed moments as any family might, but nothing bad AFAIK.)


147 posted on 10/11/2019 8:28:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: lodi90
There are many, many women in their 30s-40s in my suburban neighborhood on their 2nd husbands. They are certainly not trophy wives and don’t seem to have a problem finding men for themselves and their kids.

These are women who married younger, and probably have a realistic view of their "marriage market value". This thread is about a woman who got to 38 without finding any man who suited her, and who would put up with her. Two ENTIRELY different situations.

148 posted on 10/11/2019 8:29:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: ctdonath2

Did you notice the little “cat-house” under the table next to the bed?


149 posted on 10/11/2019 8:31:28 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: rlmorel
I told her that if I asked her how she was doing, and she said “Fine” then I wasn’t going to play mind games, read her body language, or anything else. I would accept her at her word and assume she was “fine”.

I read all the time men should learn to speak "Womanese". This kind of crap, when they say "Fine" and then really are not. You tell me fine and you are not,...that is on you. Women and men have to speak the SAME language, unhealthy women and men do not say what they want and play bull*it games like this. I don't play them now.

My current squeeze, 4 years now, she did this in the beginning, because she dated a real desperate, damaged guy before me. I would simply say..."Hey when you are ready to talk I am willing to listen, but I am heading out". For a few times I waited her out a week or so and she would text\call. She tried a few more times and after that she knew the passive\aggressive stuff would not work. Now we kind of joke about...she knows she had control issues.

150 posted on 10/11/2019 8:32:39 AM PDT by pburgh01 (Negan all the MSM)
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To: malach
Dear Abby and Ann Landers, the two most successful relationship columnists in the history of newspapers, were sisters that didn't talk to each other for something like sixty years, because Ann Landers was upset that Abby copied the idea of an advice column from her.

Heck, I get paid to write sports columns and I don't know dick about sports.

151 posted on 10/11/2019 8:33:50 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: Kaslin

Modern girls reaping what immoral commie Democrats have sown. Who knew this would end badly? Oooh, I knew!

One line in the story pissed me off. “A woman’s attractiveness peaks in her twenties”. Pure unequivocal BS. I have seen MANY beautiful women well into their 30s and in many cases they have the greater beauty of the fully mature female over the youthful beauty of twenty somethings.

I will say it is tough sledding after 40, but I think many women looked as beautiful or more beautiful in their mid-30s than in their 20s. What a croc.


152 posted on 10/11/2019 8:34:09 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: CaptainK
Powerful men can marry their secretary and no one blinks an eye. It doesn't work the other way around only because women care so much about society's opinion. Women just have to readjust their thinking and look for a good man, not the prototype perfect man, and stop worrying about what others think.

Case in point, look at all the married women you know. How many of them are married to somebody of substantially less socioeconomic status?

A college educated professional man would be willing to marry a high school dropout who is attractive, cheerful, and has a high libido. How many women executives do you know who would be willing to marry an auto mechanic (much less a waiter or supermarket cashier), no matter how handsome and funny he was?

153 posted on 10/11/2019 8:35:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: ctdonath2
A 38 year old poor teenager, wondering why her prince hasn’t come.

...because so many other men, *had*.

154 posted on 10/11/2019 8:37:11 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: alternatives?; Kaslin

As I just posted: take a good look at the article’s illustration.

The woman depicted is not “successful” by any means.
The picture shows a poor teenager, hoping beyond hope for a prince.


155 posted on 10/11/2019 8:39:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Rebuilding the ant-mound.
It doesn’t matter what you think. She’s not trying to marry you.
It matters what men think.


156 posted on 10/11/2019 8:40:00 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Richard Kimball

“Heck, I get paid to write sports columns and I don’t know dick about sports.”

LOL! You are the BOMB!


157 posted on 10/11/2019 8:41:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Women pick who they have sex with. Men pick who they marry. Each sex has the most power over that aspect if relationships they happen to value second highest. It’s ironic.

Some women go on about "Just because a man buy me dinner, he should have no expectation that it will lead to sex. The pleasure of my company should be sufficient".

The flip side is "Just because a woman has sex with me, she should have no expectation that it will lead to marriage. The pleasure of my company should be sufficient". But saying that will often make female heads explode.

158 posted on 10/11/2019 8:45:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625
I think they call it hypergamy now. Women who climb social status by using their vagina to lasso in higher status men. I know plenty of guys who are blue collar, who women trip over themselves to date. Why because they are interesting, in-shape, sexual, well read, confident. Lots of videos on hypergamy(Jordan Peterson talks on it) and how to spot women early on doing it. Lots of younger attractive single mommies(with lots of sexual capital) do it, some unconsciously. I chose to date in my age range and not at 50, date 30 year old trophy chicks and avoided lots of this.

I has a few physical relationships with younger women in the early 2010s, but did not want to parent her 4 and 6 year old brats and knew they were doing this hypergamy game. Drove them crazy when they knew I was not into them as a long term prospect. Up to a year ago, still got random texts..asking me how I was doing.....aka booty call.

159 posted on 10/11/2019 8:50:31 AM PDT by pburgh01 (Negan all the MSM)
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To: PapaBear3625
The thing is, women believe that by having sex, *they've* demonstrated a willingness to commit to marriage, so doesn't that mean, a man having sex, has signaled the same thing?

Nope.

Women mistake men for having the mindset of a woman, and when he fails to do so (unless he makes her tingle, in which case it gets her hot), she judges him to be a defective woman.

That's the proof men and women are different: women are always complaining that "men just don't *get* it."

160 posted on 10/11/2019 8:51:57 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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