Posted on 10/09/2019 5:17:14 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
Turkey's Syria invasion: Member of US Special Forces says, 'I am ashamed for the first time in my career'
A member of U.S. Special Forces serving alongside the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in Syria told Fox News' Jennifer Griffin on Wednesday they were witnessing Turkish atrocities on the frontlines.
“I am ashamed for the first time in my career,” said the distraught soldier, who has been involved in the training of indigenous forces on multiple continents. The service member, whom Griffin described as "hardened," is among the 1,000 or so U.S. troops who remain in Syria.
“Turkey is not doing what it agreed to. It’s horrible,” this military source on the ground told Griffin. “We met every single security agreement. The Kurds met every single agreement [with the Turks]. There was no threat to the Turks -- none -- from this side of the border."
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“”””Sorry if previous presidents got their hopes up or used them but this shit’s got to stop somewhere.
My only question would be. Were they warned?””””
Of course they were warned. About a year ago.
Syria’s Assad: U.S. will sell out those relying on it
https://www.yahoo.com/news/syrias-assad-u-sell-those-150048755.html
I remember it well. I had just gotten back myself.
“”””I trained SF while working for the department of the army and the DOD, and the troops are highly trained not to do something like this. The terms are OPSEC (Operations security) and COMSEC (communications security) The soldier would be court marshaled and imprisoned for this failure to secure sensitive information. And he knows it could be his life he is placing in the sights as he is already there and would be vulnerable. In all the years I trained, I never ran across a SF troop this stupid. Doubt here.””””
The fish is rotting head-down. If you see officials in DC leaking POTUS phone calls everyone else takes notice.
We will see, it is supposed to be a 20 mile buffer zone that the Pentagon refused to set up with Turkey and that is how we got here.
If they go further I would support arming the Kurds to fight.
They are supposed to move all the middle east refugees in there
Lets see what happens. If what they sold the President on happens it is a win. Everyone fears he was hoodwinked.
The result will tell us
This is dumb. Turkey is a member of NATO, hosts our nuclear weapons, and has one of the largest land armies in the world. You want us to fight Turkey to save these commie Kurds?
A lot of the Hmong were brought to the states ........ we tried.
No he isn’t. We should have been out of Syria the day after ISIS was defeated. Ask yourself why that region is so unstable in the first place? I think maybe we should stop “helping” and mind our own business.
This is still the place where we can express different opinions, isn’t it?
I wonder if the soldier even knows that at one point in time our United States Air Force was placed into the ridiculous situation of making daily flights from our Air Force Base in Turkey to protect the Kurds in their land battles against opposing forces, yet in the night Turkish planes were flying from the same Air Force Base to bomb the Kurds. Even after that we stayed there. President Donald J. Trump is right, we need to get out and go home from this untenable situation.
my only hope is that the turks don’t move in further and release all ISIS because they were allies.
also, I doubt any special forces would go against the CIC.
I know when I was in the military my response to a mike shoved in my face would have been, “you need to talk to someone higher up sorry.”
Exactly so.
You are correct; The Kurds aren’t traditionally kind to Christians. They proved that during the Armenian Genocide.
These days, they are oppressing Assyrian Christians in Iraq. And, as you stated, many are communists.
They aren’t the worst group in that hellhole, but they are no angels.
I see evidence that you are doing no such thing.
Not our problem. Never was.
Time and events will tell - this person went the emotional route and none of us has the down and dirty data on what all the dynamics are....emotions can be a dangerous thing.
George Washington was commanding general of the Continental Army, the pre-independence equivalent of the US Army. The 9 US Army generals were Jackson, W. H. Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, B. Harrison and Eisenhower. Others with military experience were Monroe, McKinley, T. Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, L. B. Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, G. H. W. Bush, G. W. Bush.
Granted some were not as good at politics as others but the statement "soldiers make crappy policy makers" is an ignorant generalization.
2) Which category do you put yourself in, great politician?
3) Who died and made you swim director?
Try making that claim while under fire in a combat zone. Yes, anyone can pull a trigger given proper attitude, skills, and training. Likewise, anyone can teach given proper attitude, skills, and training. Clearly not many teachers out there today have these prerequisites.
How long should we stay? How many KIA should we accept in fighting our own NATO ally to assist Syrians?
“If you see officials in DC leaking POTUS phone calls everyone else takes notice.”
Leaking and just telling about something someone said, even if they weren’t privy to the call in person, are two different things. But they are both not against the law as they both say nothing verifiable. So they won’t/can’t be punished for it.
A soldier leaking information from the battlefield that can be considered sensitive, is punishable. Those two acronyms I displayed, are taught from almost the minute a person breaks basic. In their MOS (job) training, or because I taught other branches, AFSC, or rating, you’ll find them in chapter one of everything they do. And they learn the possible outcome at each juncture. There is no punishment for BSing in politics. Just in the military service. And besides, there is no proof any of it exists or means anything. Punish congress for being stupid or dishonest? That’s done at the ballot box. Hence the reason for all the noise.
rwood
EXACTLY.
We’ve been playing chess with the “lesser of bad options” in the Middle East since the end of WWII. The “good guys” often become “bad guys” in the future. When you continuously lose, you should stop playing.
Truth be told, there is precious little we can do about the Kurds. They have no country. They likely aren’t ever going to have one. It isn’t America’s fault they don’t.
The Kurds should not be left “guarding” the ISIS prisoners. They should be handed over to the countries they attacked to do with what they will-hopefully sentence them to death. We should tell the Kurds we can’t fight for them and warn Turkey that any atrocities will not be good for them in the international community. Turkey’s actions should be monitored by the UN since they care so much about everyone (haha).
His Arrogance. That gets it just right.
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