Trump allies blast decision to withdraw troops from Syria

Yahoo News ^ | 10/7/19 | Dylan Stableford

[COUNTrecount]

You’re very welcome, feel free to repost it far and wide.

[Stingray51]

Graham will introduce a ““veto-proof” bipartisan sanctions that will call for Turkey’s suspension from NATO if it invades Syria and attacks Kurdish forces”

I wonder how that would work? Answer: it would not. How could Congress force NATO to suspend a member country. And of course, it is the multilateralists who would be pushing for this which means that they would be the last ones to bring down NATO over this.

[Robert DeLong]

Well in fantasy land having no protection for the government is a marvelous idea, however, reality says you better rethink that desire. In other words, nice thought, but is it really feasible? In 1789 they decided against the fantasy and created a standing military.

Two years earlier, 1787, Madison stated:

"The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."

Many of the newly minted citizens felt the same way.

However, the reality is you have to have one, but as a way of counter-acting the Federal Government power (at least theoretically), nearly 100 years after the establishment of the U.S. military, Congress passed The Posse Comitatus Act in 1878. Which of course severely limits the usage of the military to enforce domestic policies. But in many ways they subverted that by making state national guard units.

[Sam Gamgee]

Can’t Assad manage Syria against Turkey and Iran? I’m sorry but Trump was elected not ISIS supporting John McCain.

[Grampa Dave]

I have been.

President Trump clearly explains the history and why he is what he is doing.

[entropy12]

You should not ascribe words to me I did not utter. Show me where I said military expenditure is the reason for our deficit? You can’t because it came out of your head, not mine.

Actually if I was a dictator of USA, I would increase the military budget to 50% of tax revenues. Because I believe in peace through strength. But I would not squander the military dollars on policing the unstable middle-east. I would not spend it on 800 military installations world wide. I would not keep tens of thousands of troops in S Korea when that war was 75 years ago. Ditto with troops in Germany. Those countries are not poor. They are rich at our expense. They don’t spend anywhere near we spend on military.

Even with the 20% of tax revenues we spend on military, we are superior militarily than next 3 strongest combined. There is no country who can attack us and hope to win. Our only vulnerability is attacks like 911. To reduce that possibility, we need to spend the money on smart and tough measures here, which are direly lacking.

As for anti-poverty programs, when I visited Singapore, I was shocked to see how superior their airport, cruise terminal, hi-ways, transportation system is to ours. After flying back from Singapore to San Fran airport, it felt like I was entering a 3rd world airport. So if I was a dictator of USA, I would follow example of Singapore where in 30 short years, it has created more millionaires based on population size than anywhere else. Every 6th Singapore citizen is a millionaire. And guess how much they spend on anti-poverty programs? A big fat zero! There is no unemployment check, no food stamps, no welfare for any able bodied adult in working age range. If you don’t work, you will starve. Guess what is the unemployment rate in Singapore? It is essentially zero! Only Singaporeans without a job are those who are between jobs. But our politicians are too stupid to learn from others.

Getting back to our own country, I would close all 800 military installations we have abroad and use that money to tighten our open borders, and deport any immigrant legal or illegal who breaks our laws. We have a hard time finding 10 most wanted by FBI, so it will cost tons of money to round up thousands of criminal immigrants, but look how it increases safety for American people. Why are we protecting borders of other countries and leave ours wide open?

Another amazing fact about that country full of millionaires. Fully 1/3 of their workers are in Singapore on work visa’s. But here is the difference. The work visa requires the worker to leave Singapore after 2 years and re-apply again if they can prove there is a job waiting for them. And there is long waiting line of workers waiting in line because wages in Singapore are higher than neighboring countries.

So yes, any entity with debt greater than 10 times their income has no business acting as world policeman. We are bankrupt and should not pretend to be world police. We need to cut down welfare and increase military budget to be used INSIDE the country, not in 800 military outposts spread all around the world.

[mikeIII]

This is one policy I have a problem with. Trump can’t boast spending 2T$ upgrading the military to be the most powerful force in the world, and then turn around and say we can’t keep a small contingent there to thwart Turkey from annihilating the Turks, and possibly risking an ISIS resurgence.