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Man who does not understand consent has right to pursue sex, court rules
The Guardian ^ | Thu 3 Oct 2019 02.00 EDT Last modified on Thu 3 Oct 2019 10.48 EDT | Amelia Hill

Posted on 10/04/2019 7:53:29 PM PDT by jonascord

The court of protection has ruled that a man who cannot understand the issue of consent must be allowed to pursue sexual relationships.

Mrs Justice Roberts ruled that the man, who has autism with impaired cognition and lives in a supported residential placement, has a “fundamental right to sex”.

The court considers issues relating to people who might lack the mental capacity to make decisions.

A clinical psychologist submitted a report saying that the 36-year-old man, referred to as JB, represents a “moderate risk” of sexual offending to women, particularly to those who are vulnerable, and that JB cannot understand that a woman’s consent is relevant in sexual situations, nor that attempting sex without consent is likely to be a criminal offense.

However, the judge said that insisting that JB understands the issue of consent before being allowed to pursue sexual relationships would be discrimination because it would “impose on him a burden which a capacitous individual may not share”.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: jennifermaryroberts; rape; uk; weird
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Mrs Justice Roberts.

You ruled for him, sugartits, now you get to deal with him.


21 posted on 10/04/2019 8:44:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"So who does he have a fundamental right to have sex with?"

Greta Thunberg springs to mind... I can't think of anyone who more desperately needs a badaboom. At 16, she is legally old enough.

22 posted on 10/04/2019 8:45:43 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor
"What happens when someone who doesn’t understand consent runs into someone who doesn’t comprehend the rules of deadly force?"

You can read about these encounters, every few days, on the American Rifleman website, "The Armed Citizen".

23 posted on 10/04/2019 8:50:33 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: jonascord

I can’t think of anyone more unattractive—to the extent that only a low-IQ moron would want her...and then just looking at her, the effort would fall flat.


24 posted on 10/04/2019 8:52:03 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: jonascord

Whoopi’s Goldberg will interview this judge next week.


25 posted on 10/04/2019 8:55:20 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: jonascord
hell Germany already let some goathumper off for raping a young boy cause he dint know it was wrong...

castrate these mutts

26 posted on 10/04/2019 8:55:50 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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To: jonascord

This ruling goes completely contradicts the legal reasoning underpinning statutory rape laws.


27 posted on 10/04/2019 8:58:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Sutor, ne ultra crepidam--Appelles of Kos)
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To: Veto!
"and then just looking at her, the effort would fall flat."

She is a life support system for a vaj. In the Dark, they all look alike.

If you want a friend, buy a dog.

28 posted on 10/04/2019 9:08:18 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: jonascord

And I have the right to defend myself against anyone that doesn’t understand my right to say NO!


29 posted on 10/04/2019 9:10:30 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Will the last responsible person leaving California, please turn out the lights.)
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To: jonascord

All those folks in ‘The Armed Citizen’ seem to understand deadly force quite well.


30 posted on 10/04/2019 9:17:57 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: BenLurkin

That was my first thought.


31 posted on 10/04/2019 9:23:10 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: rockinqsranch

Another judge going by feelings instead of logic.


32 posted on 10/04/2019 9:25:06 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: The Pack Knight

Best line of the week, maybe the month. The UK has gone certifiably insane.


33 posted on 10/04/2019 9:25:51 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: jonascord

so if i don’t understand finances, can i legally pursue bank robberies? Home invasions? Grand theft Auto? Petty Larceny?


34 posted on 10/04/2019 10:00:49 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Sirius Lee

The real issue is to make committing rape legal for Muslims and then to make it a crime for a woman to refuse or resist. This decision is a start. Next they will rule that Islam has a “rich cultural heritage” that sees sex and consent differently than the rotten evil Western societies. So Muslim men will be given complete freedom to abuse their women and complete freedom to rape Western women. And the New Wave feminists will fully support this.


35 posted on 10/04/2019 10:06:45 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: The Pack Knight

I always wonder why I never hear any British agitation for something resembling our Bill of Rights.


36 posted on 10/04/2019 10:12:48 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: jonascord

He should be locked up in an insane asylum, in a locked room, where he cannot hurt anyone.

The “doctor” who concluded that it was OK to let him loose in society, because if he doesn’t understand “no”, he can ignore it, should be locked up in an asylum too, he is a danger to society, letting dangerous, crazy people run around loose.


37 posted on 10/04/2019 10:49:45 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Bob434
"so if i don’t understand finances, can i legally pursue bank robberies? Home invasions? Grand theft Auto? Petty Larceny?"

Apparently, in the UK, go for it. Act as if you are mentally impaired, and this Judge will consider that you, "cannot understand that a woman’s consent is relevant in sexual situations, nor that attempting sex without consent is likely to be a criminal offence."

The judge said that insisting that you understands the issue of consent before being allowed to pursue sexual relationships would be discrimination because it would “impose on you a burden which a capacitous individual may not share”.

Stop laughing. This silly, Socialist twit is serious. I would say that simply voting democrat would qualify as "someone who might lack the mental capacity to make decisions." This makes you gold.

38 posted on 10/04/2019 11:11:10 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: jonascord

Bill Clinton will find this “more interesting”.


39 posted on 10/04/2019 11:15:50 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: jonascord
[...] However, the judge said that insisting that JB understands the issue of consent before being allowed to pursue sexual relationships would be discrimination [...]

The "journalist" who wrote this article apparently has no understanding of the subjunctive mood.

JB doesn't understand the issue, therefore one cannot insist that "JB understands...."

Regards,

40 posted on 10/04/2019 11:36:54 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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