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1 posted on 09/30/2019 9:01:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 09/30/2019 9:02:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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“When blacks hear the word conservatism, we hear Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms, segregationist senators from South Carolina and North Carolina, respectively.”

Neither Jesse Helms or Strom Thurmond were Segregationists.


3 posted on 09/30/2019 9:04:10 PM PDT by Meatspace
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I stopped reading at the words “black community.”

Collectivists don’t believe in freedom or individual achievement, just free stuff from the Demacrats plantation.


4 posted on 09/30/2019 9:06:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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As a matter of fact, conservatives force “real” blacks to make a false choice: to be black or conservative, as though we can’t be both.

Stopped reading right there. Total BS!

5 posted on 09/30/2019 9:06:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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TIME TO BRING THIS UP
During the period after the civil war known as reconstruction black legislators who were Republican were elected in the south To stop this democrats came up with segregation poll taxes and Jim Crow laws and the KKK.....


6 posted on 09/30/2019 9:06:41 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting fobills are nr the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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"Conservatives have shown no demonstrable indication to the black community that we are welcomed will engage in pandering by the party or the conservative movement.
7 posted on 09/30/2019 9:11:39 PM PDT by bkopto
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“We have a hard time being conservative because conservatives don’t pander to us like the liberals do.”


11 posted on 09/30/2019 9:16:06 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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So black conservatives are uncle Tom?


13 posted on 09/30/2019 9:18:28 PM PDT by Raycpa
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...no demonstrable indication to the black community that we are welcomed by the party or the conservative movement...

I've been a Republican for all of my life, over 60 years as an adult. I've attended many Republican-sponsored events.I can only juidge how welcome blacks are in the party by the way blacks were welcomed to those various events. My impressions were that they were very welcome. I guess that excludes community outreach such as President Trump has tried to do.

14 posted on 09/30/2019 9:27:13 PM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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It could have been better written for understanding for readers who haven’t lived in a black community, but it would be wise to try to understand. Everyone is racist to some extent or other, but the first step towards welcoming more black people to conservative political action is to avoid generalizing about black people.

And no, I’m not black at all in any way. But I have lived in a black community and learned that many black people are conservative. Many of them don’t vote. That’s because they aren’t welcomed by enough truly wise people in either party.

Lefties are just as clueless, by the way, even though they do pander much.


19 posted on 09/30/2019 9:35:15 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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I understand plenty - which is why I am not persuaded by this propaganda.


20 posted on 09/30/2019 9:40:06 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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Re: Conservatives have shown no demonstrable indication to the black community that we are welcomed by the party or the conservative movement.

Speaking only for myself....

The only people I want in my party are people who share most of my heart felt political and personal convictions.

I'm thinking that's about 10% of the Black American community - which is exactly the percentage that vote Conservative.

24 posted on 09/30/2019 9:50:42 PM PDT by zeestephen
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This doesn’t sound right. I do not know a racist conservative. I don’t even know an insensitive conservative.


26 posted on 09/30/2019 9:51:41 PM PDT by lurk
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I need some schooling as to what is the difference between a “real” black and some other kind. I’d like to get a handle on this to some degree. I have some close friends who think themselves to be targets on account of their skin color due to life long experiences.

Meanwhile, there is a notable absence of conservatives in the inner city. Nature abhors a vacuum. If conservatives don’t want to jump into the inner city fray and make things better, then who are they to sit back and curse the garbage that fills in where they are not? I think they call it “white flight.”

Again searching for flame suit.


28 posted on 09/30/2019 9:54:11 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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If you read the entire article I think Jackson means well, but doesn’t understand conservatism from the Limbaugh point of view. To Jackson one’s blackness seems paramount, while to a conservative, individualism is the overriding principle.

If blacks are as socially conservative as Jackson states, they would be repelled at the rat agenda. But since they see themselves on the basis of their skin color they tend toward collectivism. Jackson sees a black community while a conservative would see only individuals.

I do agree with him on how the label conservative conjures up negative impressions for black folks. We often routinely use terminology that was imposed on us by the left without even thinking about it. “gay” for homosexual is an obvious example.

Another one is “capitalism.” Any one defending “capitalism” starts out in a 10 foot hole. It is a Marxist term which conjures up visions of unsafe factories and mines, child labor, etc presided over by rich white men.

Like it or not, conservative is a term the media often links to Nazis, klansmen, even old guard soviets. Time to think of a new self descriptive: I vote for individualist.

Getting back to Jackson, he needs to understand that “conservativism” is an individual, not group dynamic. I think that might be happening with his brethren more than he realizes.


31 posted on 09/30/2019 10:09:00 PM PDT by Ceebass (The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date)
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Quit reading after references to "white people" and "black people".

If you're categorizing a person.....by their skin color, you are part of the problem.....not the solution.

33 posted on 09/30/2019 10:13:59 PM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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I understand blacks quite well. Racist of the author to assume whites don’t.


35 posted on 09/30/2019 10:18:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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We need to make black people feel more welcome in the conservative community.

This is a good article, and it would be smart for conservatives to appreciate the sentiment being conveyed.

There is probably nothing more terrifying to the Democrat power brokers than the idea of blacks, en mass, switching back to the Republican party.


47 posted on 09/30/2019 10:54:47 PM PDT by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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I’m so tired of this. If you come at me with, “I’m black,” I don’t care, one way or another.


50 posted on 09/30/2019 11:05:09 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one w)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Pelham; Black Agnes; Travis McGee

The road of who can pander most to minorities and continue to horsewhip southerners is for weak minded people and will never ever work

Conservatism is not about pandering

It’s about truth and reason tempered with morality

You can’t pander that....you get it easily or you’re a lefty

Broken inside trying to fix the world rather than oneself ....the essence of a lefty

You can’t out identity politic the progressives

This Dinesh notion always seen here that a 2019 democrat is the same as an antebellum democrat or a segregationist democrat and Republicans are the answer is just plain stupid and the province of the ignorant

But it sounds good to those who simply cannot resist pandering to blacks

Hasn’t Trump taught you dumbasses we are beyond all that......we are in crisis as we speak

The left through the Democrat party, NGOs and Foundations ,MEDIA and now Intelligence services axis or intersection as they say now is attempting to stage a coup again against our last great Hope who yeah happens to be white and a good post bellum blooded Yankee although he went to a military school and you can tell btw

And you guys want to pander to the negro on and on in spite of everything

Y’all are stupid and weak

That was last century

If you must pander to a non white then pander to Latinos

“Tear down the Alamo “

Your weak girly logic will lead right there soon enough trust me.


52 posted on 09/30/2019 11:12:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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