Posted on 09/22/2019 4:57:05 PM PDT by Hojczyk
As things stand now, its unclear whether the Ukraine whistle blower matter is a serious scandal. In my view, it will become one only if President Trump used American aid as a quid-pro-quo in trying to induce Ukraine to investigate the Bidens or if he significantly delayed the release of such aid because Ukraine hadnt agreed to investigate.
For purposes of discussion, lets assume this becomes a serious scandal, or at least one that the Democrats and the media firmly believe they can get major mileage from. Who would be hurt more, Donald Trump or Joe Biden?
I think Biden would be. In any plausible scenario I can foresee now, the Ukraine matter will not result in Trumps removal from office via impeachment. Nor will it cost him the Republican nomination next year.
But a major Ukraine scandal could easily cost Biden the nomination. Why? Because Democrats cannot effectively make a big issue out of such a scandal as long as Biden is their nominee.
Biden will claim, in fact has claimed, that his desire to oust the Ukrainian prosecutor had nothing to do with the fact that the guy was investigating his son. He just thought the fellow was a bad prosecutor.
This argument doesnt pass the straight face test. Democrats will not want to be saddled with it.
If party bosses still controlled the nomination process, and if they concluded that the Ukraine matter should be a major line of attack against Trump, they would kill the Biden nomination is a smoke-filled room.
Party bosses no longer control the nomination process (except when they do; see Clinton, Hillary). Primary voters and caucus goers do. But the polls suggest that the biggest thing in Bidens favor is his supposed strength as a candidate against Trump.
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Biden, because of GUILTY
Caught a bit of Giuliani being interviewed this morning on Fox--interviewer seemed hostile, just kept repeating the Democrat talking points. So maybe we can expect Fox to be pretty much like ABC, NBC, and CBS in the next 14 months in how they treat the candidates.
The questions is not who would it hurt. Who would it help.
This has Elizabeth Warren with Hillary's resources all over it. This one was spawned to get Biden knocked out of the nomination race.
Now I didn't see Congress screaming about getting the money to Ukraine by "X". But I will look into it further.
I believe President Trump was being cautious about what we were furnishing the Ukraine....because it was unlike what was furnished under the Obama administration.
The frontal assault was from Trump. Why? He wants Biden out before he wins the nomination? Why? Well, the neverTrumpers. Biden is an old time establishment liberal. The RINOs can work with him. Progs and socialists? Not so much.
One consequence of "Russia, Russia, Russia" is that US citizenry never thought about the chaos the US caused.
It will be a Democrat disaster. The same as will happen if they try to impeach Trump for profiting from his office. Not one member of Congress can withstand an examination of their wealth since they took office. They ALL become millionaires while holding elected office.
How long will it take before folks can't stand her voice anymore? Then, on to Bernie.
Excellent point about the NeverTrumpers.
How would this hurt President Trump? He is supposed to fight corruption like Biden engaged in whenever he becomes aware of it.
I would guess Trump is playing 3D chess again. He has the dems destroying themselves.
How many people were pressured and threatened to say something to damage Trump, even if they had to make it up? This accusation, even if true, is the height of duplicity and hypocrisy.
Warren is Hillary. They're in cahoots.
I don’t think we have even scratched the surface, let’s examine Fineswine,Schumer,Pelosi,Nadler Schiff,.... Finances and see exactly where they get their bribe money and kickbacks from
Thumbs up.
So let me get this straight:
The Chief Law Enforcement officer in the country asked or called for an investigation into potential criminal activity - and that is an impeachable offense?
There is no “Ukraine Scandal” for Trump, as hard as they are trying to drum one up.
Nope.
Biden, however, DOES have a “Ukraine Scandal”.
Too old, too stammering, too tired, too much baggage, too gaffe-prone.
Any fool can watch the film of Joe Biden blackmailing the president of the Ukraine, why haven’t the fools at the Justice Dept. started an investigation or called a grand jury to probe this outrageous act of blackmail.
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