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Did We Learn the Lesson of 9/11?
Townhall.com ^ | September 12, 2019 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 09/12/2019 3:00:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

It's now been nearly a full generation since Sept. 11, 2001. There are people currently serving in the U.S. military who weren't born when that act of evil took place -- and the military still has thousands of troops in Afghanistan, the home base of the Taliban-supported al Qaida attack on the United States that took nearly 3,000 American lives.

With time comes forgetfulness. The same period of time has now elapsed since Sept. 11 that elapsed between the end of World War I (1918) and the German re-occupation of the Rhineland in contravention of the Treaty of Versailles (1936). Believing that World War I had ended all war, the Allied powers did nothing. That same year, Germany concluded its Axis alliance with Italy, as well as its Anti-Comintern Pact with Japan. Less than three years later, the world would be at war.

Forgetfulness is easy, because immediate costs are painful and steep. American foreign policy nearly always vacillates between two poles: isolationism and reactive interventionism. The American people (correctly) don't like the consequences of isolationism -- increased attacks on America and her allies, maximization of influence by our enemies -- but we also dislike (correctly) the consequences of maintaining a global military presence. It was easy to tear into the Clinton administration's weakness on defense in the aftermath of the Cold War, but there was almost no political cost in it for Clinton at the time. The sepia glow of media coverage regarding Barack Obama hasn't been darkened by his single-minded quest to minimize American influence around the world. CARTOONS | Robert Ariail View Cartoon

But every so often, we're reminded that the world is filled with enemies.

We were reminded of that unfortunate fact this week when President Trump withdrew an apparently secret invitation to the Taliban to visit Camp David. The Taliban was, is and will remain an Islamic terror group; it has continuously sought the murder of American soldiers and citizens for two decades. Why would the Trump administration think it a good idea to sign an agreement with radicals who seek to overthrow the administration of Afghanistan, support terrorism and despise the United States? Do members of the administration truly believe that any agreement signed by the Taliban will be binding?

The answer, of course, is no. That's why the talks fell apart, according to The New York Times -- a response from inside the administration in the aftermath of a terror attack on American soldiers this week, a recognition of the obvious.

The problem, of course, is that there are no easy solutions when it comes to foreign policy in the worst parts of the world. Everyone of good heart wants American soldiers out of Afghanistan and home. But how many Americans are willing to risk the increase in terrorism likely to follow such a withdrawal?

So long as we remember 9/11, the answer will be: very few.

Now, perhaps we should withdraw from Afghanistan. Perhaps the withdrawal is worth the risk. But American history isn't replete with circumstances in which precipitous withdrawal is followed by peace and security.

It's now been nearly a full generation since Sept. 11, 2001. There are people currently serving in the U.S. military who weren't born when that act of evil took place -- and the military still has thousands of troops in Afghanistan, the home base of the Taliban-supported al Qaida attack on the United States that took nearly 3,000 American lives.

With time comes forgetfulness. The same period of time has now elapsed since Sept. 11 that elapsed between the end of World War I (1918) and the German re-occupation of the Rhineland in contravention of the Treaty of Versailles (1936). Believing that World War I had ended all war, the Allied powers did nothing. That same year, Germany concluded its Axis alliance with Italy, as well as its Anti-Comintern Pact with Japan. Less than three years later, the world would be at war.

Forgetfulness is easy, because immediate costs are painful and steep. American foreign policy nearly always vacillates between two poles: isolationism and reactive interventionism. The American people (correctly) don't like the consequences of isolationism -- increased attacks on America and her allies, maximization of influence by our enemies -- but we also dislike (correctly) the consequences of maintaining a global military presence. It was easy to tear into the Clinton administration's weakness on defense in the aftermath of the Cold War, but there was almost no political cost in it for Clinton at the time. The sepia glow of media coverage regarding Barack Obama hasn't been darkened by his single-minded quest to minimize American influence around the world.

But every so often, we're reminded that the world is filled with enemies.

We were reminded of that unfortunate fact this week when President Trump withdrew an apparently secret invitation to the Taliban to visit Camp David. The Taliban was, is and will remain an Islamic terror group; it has continuously sought the murder of American soldiers and citizens for two decades. Why would the Trump administration think it a good idea to sign an agreement with radicals who seek to overthrow the administration of Afghanistan, support terrorism and despise the United States? Do members of the administration truly believe that any agreement signed by the Taliban will be binding?

The answer, of course, is no. That's why the talks fell apart, according to The New York Times -- a response from inside the administration in the aftermath of a terror attack on American soldiers this week, a recognition of the obvious.

The problem, of course, is that there are no easy solutions when it comes to foreign policy in the worst parts of the world. Everyone of good heart wants American soldiers out of Afghanistan and home. But how many Americans are willing to risk the increase in terrorism likely to follow such a withdrawal?

So long as we remember 9/11, the answer will be: very few.

Now, perhaps we should withdraw from Afghanistan. Perhaps the withdrawal is worth the risk. But American history isn't replete with circumstances in which precipitous withdrawal is followed by peace and security.

All of which means that American troops are likely to remain in Afghanistan for the foreseeable future. Few politicians will be bold enough to simply state that truth. After all, when John McCain said as much in 2008, he was roundly mocked by Barack Obama -- the same Obama who escalated the war in Afghanistan and retained thousands of troops there, despite promising withdrawal repeatedly. But our politicians should be brave enough to recognize that a weaker America on the world stage means a more vulnerable America at home. If we didn't learn that lesson on 9/11, we're bound to repeat it.

But every so often, we're reminded that the world is filled with enemies.

We were reminded of that unfortunate fact this week when President Trump withdrew an apparently secret invitation to the Taliban to visit Camp David. The Taliban was, is and will remain an Islamic terror group; it has continuously sought the murder of American soldiers and citizens for two decades. Why would the Trump administration think it a good idea to sign an agreement with radicals who seek to overthrow the administration of Afghanistan, support terrorism and despise the United States? Do members of the administration truly believe that any agreement signed by the Taliban will be binding?

The answer, of course, is no. That's why the talks fell apart, according to The New York Times -- a response from inside the administration in the aftermath of a terror attack on American soldiers this week, a recognition of the obvious.

The problem, of course, is that there are no easy solutions when it comes to foreign policy in the worst parts of the world. Everyone of good heart wants American soldiers out of Afghanistan and home. But how many Americans are willing to risk the increase in terrorism likely to follow such a withdrawal?

So long as we remember 9/11, the answer will be: very few.

Now, perhaps we should withdraw from Afghanistan. Perhaps the withdrawal is worth the risk. But American history isn't replete with circumstances in which precipitous withdrawal is followed by peace and security.

All of which means that American troops are likely to remain in Afghanistan for the foreseeable future. Few politicians will be bold enough to simply state that truth. After all, when John McCain said as much in 2008, he was roundly mocked by Barack Obama -- the same Obama who escalated the war in Afghanistan and retained thousands of troops there, despite promising withdrawal repeatedly. But our politicians should be brave enough to recognize that a weaker America on the world stage means a more vulnerable America at home. If we didn't learn that lesson on 9/11, we're bound to repeat it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 911anniversary; benshapiro; jihadinamerica; lessons
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To: bert

Uh, pretty sure that is actually what the word “Monarchy” means.


41 posted on 09/13/2019 5:31:25 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin
It took four and a half years, and burning down half of Japan, to raise the American flag over the Dai Ichi building in Tokyo.

Pearl Harbor day was not a national event until then. Americans were too busy working third shift and inventing nuclear weapons.

So, a bunch of people lighting candles and weeping eighteen years after the joint Saudi-Pakistan attack on New York and Virginia obviously have not learned the lesson Admiral Halsey expressed so well with his fleet signal on December 7, 1941:

"Kill Japs, kill Japs, kill more Japs".

42 posted on 09/13/2019 5:33:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: JimRed
Since all non-citizen Muslims have not been deported and all citizen Muslims are not under surveillance, no, we have not learned.

+1.

43 posted on 09/13/2019 5:35:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: wastoute; TomasUSMC
To pretend there is some substitute and limited goals can replace the old formula is to invite disaster. The disaster we are now involved in.

+100

44 posted on 09/13/2019 5:36:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: wastoute

Like I said, you are wrong


45 posted on 09/13/2019 5:37:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: bert

OK. I guess what you are saying is there was a coup we are unaware of in the Saudi Royal Family and only the rebellious fraction was behind 911? Is there evidence of a coup in that 2001 timeframe?


46 posted on 09/13/2019 5:44:36 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute; bert

It doesn’t matter whether the on-paper government of Saudi Arabia (or Pakistan, for that matter) ordered and directed the attack.

What matters is that their nations were and are at war with our nation, and that all of the blood and all of the treasure expended since 9-11-01 has not even begun to break them to our will.

And, to top it off, we killed the main Arab enemy of the Saudis, just to say “thank you”.

For what?


47 posted on 09/13/2019 5:53:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jim Noble

Just a hunch on my part but I can’t help but wonder if a number of things we now consider to be unrelated actually are very related. The cover up of Saudi involvement in 911, Epstein, Hillary’s emails, #FusionCollusion, who knows what else. It’s the same people involved again and again. Mueller and Comey both had to have known it was the Saudis, they were both Directors of the FBI during the timeframe. How is it the CIA and FBI, apparently, had no interest in or knowledge of what Epstein was doing? We know for a fact Strzok and McCabe were aware of #FusionCollusion. Just my humble opinion but I can’t help wondering if this isn’t the dilemma Barr is facing. He can’t pursue #FusionCollusion because he can’t reveal just a part of this mess because it is a thread that is woven into decades of corruption and cover up.


48 posted on 09/13/2019 6:01:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Old Yeller

Yep. Put a muslim in the White House two times. Put muslims in Congress and everywhere else. Bringing in young muslims males of fighting age solo by the troopship full.


49 posted on 09/13/2019 6:09:17 AM PDT by sport
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To: Kaslin
In one day, Islam killed about three thousand folks in the USA.

EVERY day; 'CHOICE' kills about 3,000 future Americans.

And now; we are angry at MUSLIMS?

50 posted on 09/13/2019 6:13:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jim Noble

Saudi Arabia is not at war with the USA and is in fact a strong ally

No less than the President of the United States stood before the entire Arab world in a meeting in Riyadh and proclaimed the relationship in no uncertain terms.

I expect you did not hear because you dogmatically refused to listen


51 posted on 09/13/2019 6:15:57 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: bert

“I expect you did not hear because you dogmatically refused to listen”

No, I heard it, all right, and I thought it was incredibly stupid.


52 posted on 09/13/2019 6:30:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jim Noble; wastoute
I understand now that you are deaf and can not hear. Perhaps seeing is believing. Our President is walking with HRH the king on a symbolic red carpet rolled out to honor the president

(Please note that Melania is in the photo wearing long sleeves but no burka)

53 posted on 09/13/2019 6:39:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Second row should begin with the appropriate portrait for the caption “Elected POTUS November 2008”.


54 posted on 09/15/2019 7:25:20 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: lightman
Second row should begin with the appropriate portrait for the caption “Elected POTUS November 2008”.


55 posted on 09/16/2019 1:36:47 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Liberals no longer glorify heroic deeds, They glorify whining that they call heroic)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
PERFECT!
56 posted on 09/16/2019 6:04:07 AM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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