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Scottish FM to seek legal powers to hold new independence vote in 2020
The Guardian ^ | 5 September 2019 | Severin Carrell

Posted on 09/06/2019 1:31:30 AM PDT by Cronos

Nicola Sturgeon has said she will ask for the legal powers to stage a new independence referendum next year as she unveiled a swathe of measures to combat climate heating.

The first minister told MSPs on Tuesday she would ask the UK government for a section 30 order enabling Holyrood to hold a second independence vote once a new Scottish referendum bill is passed.

.... She did not mention polls that indicate the Scottish National party would win more than 50 of Scotland’s 59 Commons seats, but said she wanted to be prepared. “We intend to offer the people of Scotland the choice of a better and more positive future as an independent nation,” she said.

“We will seek agreement to the transfer of power that will put the referendum beyond legal challenge. We have a clear democratic mandate to offer the choice of independence within this term of parliament – and we intend to do so.”

Ian Blackford, the SNP’s Westminster leader, said earlier on Tuesday an election gave his party “a fantastic opportunity” to strengthen the mandate for independence. It would allow Scotland’s voters “to send a very clear message to Westminster that we should be able to determine our own future”, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit; freedom; scotland; williamwallace
This is exciting. Looks like hard, no-deal halloween is on the cards and then the union i.e. the UK will have a bit of introspection.

We live in interesting times!

1 posted on 09/06/2019 1:31:30 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

And so it begins... (or perhaps in this case, the end begins...)


2 posted on 09/06/2019 1:58:20 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: Cronos

>>” as she unveiled a swathe of measures to combat climate heating.”

“we should be able determine our own future”

Global climate myths are about controlling people.


3 posted on 09/06/2019 2:00:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Cronos

Boris should tell Scotland, “You had the first independence vote in 320 years just 4 years ago and voted it down, you can have another one in 2335.”


4 posted on 09/06/2019 2:06:26 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Monster turnout (85%) and pretty clear and overwhelmingly NO to independence (55%).

Sounds like another case of voting till getting the desired result.


5 posted on 09/06/2019 2:10:23 AM PDT by C210N (qui)
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To: SteveH

Yes. I am looking forward to November 1 after the UK has left.

There is too much animosity, too much discord.

When Brexit happens, that will not end the discord - but it will end one statement “oh, just wait for brexit” - so one variable removed.


6 posted on 09/06/2019 2:28:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: C210N

A 5.1% swing isn’t overwhelming.


7 posted on 09/06/2019 3:35:23 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: apillar

Scotland is a drain on England’s purse. England would be better off without it.


8 posted on 09/06/2019 3:54:23 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Cronos
During the first referendum oil was at about $110 a barrel. Today it's closer to $65...and is bound to go even lower as US production increases by leaps and bounds.

So,unlike a few years ago,Scotland's dwindling oil reserves are of no consequence today.

It's difficult to see Scotland's economy doing very well on whiskey and haggis exports. But I'm sure the SNP would have no problem with Scotland becoming just another EU protectorate...like Spain,Italy,Greece,Poland,etc,etc.

9 posted on 09/06/2019 4:01:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Spain is doing very well. They had a few rough years due to over extension but no more.

What makes you think Spain is a protectorate?


10 posted on 09/06/2019 4:03:30 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: EEGator

Yeah, you are right. But, it ain’t no chad territory either.


11 posted on 09/06/2019 4:11:36 AM PDT by C210N (qui)
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To: C210N

12 posted on 09/06/2019 4:26:31 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

The women are beautiful and the men are ugly.


13 posted on 09/06/2019 5:14:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Cronos

Denied.

The Scots got a vote already. They need to wait at least a generation before voting on the matter again. The SNP is always going to whine for another vote because they lost. They can be ignored.


14 posted on 09/06/2019 5:30:45 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Cronos

An independent Scotland will fall somewhere between Venezuela and Cuba on the political spectrum.


15 posted on 09/06/2019 5:52:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: C210N

True. It was a pre-Brexit vote though.(if that matters)


16 posted on 09/06/2019 6:28:52 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Once Brexit happens, the Scots will be clamoring for independence so they can rejoin the EU. Is that irony?


17 posted on 09/06/2019 7:01:43 AM PDT by rivercat
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To: Cronos

Scotland, my ancestral home of poets, thinkers and warriors, has become New Jersey.


18 posted on 09/06/2019 7:37:42 AM PDT by lurk
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"Scotland, my ancestral home of poets, thinkers and warriors, has become New Jersey Cuba."

Fixed it for you.

19 posted on 09/06/2019 10:25:16 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Their much-vaunted whisky industry relies on English grain grown in Kent.


20 posted on 09/06/2019 11:19:26 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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