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To: RightGeek

This woman is way off base. Men aren’t terrified of women, nor are they anxious to be harassers without consequences. Men are rightly disgusted with the idea that innocent joking and playing around can be construed as harassment, depending on what their current level of hormones or what they think, then or much later. The men are busy and distracted enough without having to treat every interaction with a woman like a chess move. They can’t relax around women, thanks to Me too and a lot of earlier nonsense and a lot of men just don’t need that kind of tension and will avoid it if possible.

Btw, I am a woman and working in a professional, male-dominated arena. I never once had a situation where if I told the guy he was out of bounds, he didn’t listen and correct himself. It was a kind of “one-bite rule”. That has been tossed out by Me too and feminists who have surrounded men with a literal minefield of liability.


24 posted on 08/30/2019 10:33:42 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint
I never once had a situation where if I told the guy he was out of bounds, he didn’t listen and correct himself. It was a kind of “one-bite rule”.

Yup. I think we are decades past the point where a guy would repeatedly be a jerk. Sometime around 1970 or so people began to wise up and realize that boorish behavior wasn't OK. Sure, people still make mistakes, you tell the guy he's over the line, he corrects himself, and life goes on.

But in the modern era, one failed attempt at humor or small talk means a lawsuit and the end of a career. I am extremely cautious about women these days.

43 posted on 08/30/2019 10:40:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: caseinpoint
Good points!

I just retired from a YUGE mine construction job in a foreign country where the work force was about 40% women. I was the construction manager and what I noticed was that the interaction totally depended on the woman.
I had no problem at all with dining in the mess hall or just generally being friendly with some of the female staff. Others, not so much!

Never, ever anything other than just treating everyone professionally and treating the women just like the male workers...and I still maintain email contact with several of the "gals" I worked with.

But!, I never had a meeting alone with a female employee...no matter what her professional level...and NEVER had a female employee in my office with the door closed.

Men in the workforce have to be able to SEND the message that funny business is not and will not be tolerated.
I've worked under this personal standing order my entire career and have never had a problem...and am going on 40-years of marriage to the same lady this year.

59 posted on 08/30/2019 10:50:37 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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To: caseinpoint

Office romances are now extinct. Sad. A lot of good marriages came out of that. Great way to get to know someone in everyday, good & bad day life.

Feminazis have hurt women.


63 posted on 08/30/2019 10:51:30 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: caseinpoint

As a woman I have also told men if they were out of bounds, or I’ve stayed away from them entirely if they were too handsy. I never went to HR about it but handled things myself. That’s what a grown-up does. Then again, I wasn’t trying to climb any corporate ladders.


101 posted on 08/30/2019 11:27:01 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: caseinpoint

to be honest, I am out of the day to day anymore, but I caution both men and women to not be alone with anyone anymore. Any man can be hit with the metoo movement.

However a man can be hit with a false sexual harrasment charge from any man also. Same with the women. Along with not being alone with a man, I think that a woman pressing sexual harrassment charges against a woman is not out of the realm of possibility.

In these days that the left is now imposing on us, instead of letting us take care of business ourselves, it imposes radical rules.

Of course the up and coming generations often have not learned interal control, because it has been taken away by the leftists.


160 posted on 08/30/2019 7:37:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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