Posted on 08/28/2019 7:38:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“The Afghan question now becomes, how does the United States extricate itself from a hopeless ground war without recreating another lawless territory where a new generation of plotters can plan and practice future assaults on the homeland?”
Nuke them. Every square inch.
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All the viable solutions involve cobalt 60.
We really should have turned the entire country into smoldering glass on 9/12. Like I posted here on that day. I have seen nothing that changed my mind in the interval.
Put a 40 sq/mi no-go zone around Bagram airbase and pull out of everywhere else.
We might as well at least get a Diego Garcia-type of logistics base in central Asia out of all this.
IIRC I also posted on 912 something to the effect that if we didn’t nuke them we really do need to apologize to the Japs.
We do not know what is said in the talks with the Taliban but a message might be quietly delivered “Sraighten up and fly right or we will kill you”
Never should have gone there. If the Taliban was that big of a deal, which I question, there were ways to deal with them that didn’t involve a 20 year war. It is beyond ridiculous. I don’t invalidate anyone who served there, but I do hold this debacle against GWB and his cronies that stood to make bank off of it.
“They hate us cuz our chix can get a college education and go around in bikinis and leggings”
It’s SUCH a lie.
Are they primitive fatalists who like dirt and boy-humping?
Yes.
Do they yearn to re-create the American mid-west in the middle east..?
No.
That NeoCon fantasy is a formula to get ALL our boys killed in wars that DO NOT belong to us.
And up till now, they have been successful at it.
The rules of engagement prevented our troops from effectively fighting and endangered their lives.
The casualty rate under Obama doubled over the worst month of open warfare under Bush the January Obama took office and remained that way until Trump took office
This article and thread stand as testament to the malicious destructiveness of Western Journalism and the brutal effectiveness of anti-Western Leftist propaganda in producing a myopic, demoralized, self-pitying and defeatist public.
Cue the Khrushchev quote. The fruit is ripe.
Nuke them to the stone age. When they rise again, nuke them again. The current Afgan government is not much different than the Taliban. No freedom of religion exists.
Sounds like a good start. Then how do we get our people out of Bagram airbase?
Withdrawals are dangerous. When the British withdrew from Afghanistan in the 1840's they lost their entire army to ambushes on the exit route. Over 16,000 people were killed.
Only one soldier survived.
When the Russians left Afghanistan, they did so without prior announcements and were completely gone in 24 hours. We had best do something along those lines when we leave.
Anyone that gets in the way - just kill them.
We fight like we are at war but we have not declared war since WWII. We have won most battles but continue to not finish off enemy. As we look back since 9/11,it is just an incredible waste. It makes me sick and demoralized.
No matter what kind of agreement the Taliban make with us Infidels, the Taliban are under no obligation to honor that agreement. Their motivation is religious.
Us Infidels have to educate the public to the fact Islam is a threat to anyone who is not a Muslim.
Not that hard to prove, using he Koran, Hadiths and the life and examples set by Muhammad, and 1400 years of history.
Our problem in this area is extending tolerance to religions that threaten our existence.
We are naive to believe other religions have an underlying basis of respect and love for all people; Islam doesn't.
Only other Muslims will get respect and love, non-Muslims will be subjugated, converted to Islam or killed. -Tom
We keep it - will piss off both the Red Chinese and Russians.
I just threw out 40 sq/mi as a number - whatever we need to keep flight cycles safe from SAMS.
I have stated this before.
To truly win a war, you kill them, and their wives, and their children, and their livestock, and their crops.
You bomb them until you are bombing rubble, then you bomb them some more
You keep killing them until they beg for mercy, and then you kill them some more until YOU decide they got the message.
Then you make them pay for the drubbing you gave them.
Make it so their great-grandchildren fear the sound of military aircraft, or the sight of one of your soldiers’ shadow.
No quarter asked or given. The Romans, while they could be idiots in some ways, got that part of warfare correct.
The rent is too damned high.
Way past time to get out of Afghanistan.
If we really want a two-way live fire training area for our Military, let's pick some place that can be resupplied by our Navy.
How about Northern Mexico?
“The initial goal of invading Afghanistan in the immediate weeks after 9/11 could not have been more clear: Get Osama bin Laden and oust the Taliban regime that gave his fanatical pack of beards safe haven to plan and practice the deadly attacks.”
These were achieved and then Colin Powell started his nation building crap with the other globalist. You are correct, keep a small base, and pull out or just pull out altogether with a warning to the crazies. We can come back and kill your training camps by air or by special forces anytime we think you are messing with us. If we do come back we kill you all and we leave. There will be no aid, no food, no medicine, just death.
I can’t find a coherent strategy that has been tried in Afghanistan, day one other than the initial statement in this article which they promptly abandoned. Pull out and don’t waste another drop of blood and treasure on this 7th century crap hole.
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