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JUSTICE DENIED: New York Proud Boys Convicted of ASSAULT After Antifa Attack
National File ^ | August 19, 2019 | JACK HADFIELD

Posted on 08/19/2019 7:43:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Two members of the Proud Boys were convicted on Monday for defending themselves against a violent Antifa attack in New York last year. John Kinsman and Maxwell Hare were two of 10 Proud Boys who were charged after being jumped by members of the far-left, terrorist group in October 2018. The men were exiting from a talk by the founder and former leader of the Proud Boys, Gavin McInnes, when they were immediately attacked, unprovoked, by the thugs, who were protesting the event at the Metropolitan Republican Club.

The Antifa members refused to co-operate with the authorities during the trial, and were referred to by nicknames like “Ponytail” and “Shaved Head” in an indictment. Prosecutors described McInnes as a “hatemonger”, and that the Proud Boys supposed attack on Antifa was “vicious, disproportionate and most important, unnecessary.” Jack Goldberg, Kinsman’s lawyer, argued during the trial that Antifa and the prosecutors were in cahoots:

These people aren’t the New York County district attorney’s office. They are the New York County district Antifa office.

Despite the entire brawl being caught on CCTV and cell phones, Hare and Kinsman were found guilty of attempted gang assault, riot, and attepted assault. All but 1 – who is to be tried sometime in the future – were convicted.

McInnes reacted to the news in a public statement:

And the verdict is… GUILTY. The message from the state here is either sit and take a beating or go to prison.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalfile.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antifa; newyork
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1 posted on 08/19/2019 7:43:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I suggest a civil rights investigation.


2 posted on 08/19/2019 7:48:23 PM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Looks like conservative peaceful people are going to have to carry justice with them 24/7.


3 posted on 08/19/2019 7:49:13 PM PDT by DOC44
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"..And the verdict is… GUILTY. The message from the state here is either sit and take a beating or go to prison.."

If there's any truth to this and not something with "redactions", this could be significant. d;^)

4 posted on 08/19/2019 7:51:20 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sounds like a Shoot First Attitude is warranted for Antifa terrorists. ALso the Republican Party as a Whole, and I mean every last one of them, should immediately Boycott and Cease and Decist EVERYTHING New York


5 posted on 08/19/2019 7:52:17 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This reads just like the way Christians are persecuted and then treated by Muslims and Hindu.


6 posted on 08/19/2019 7:53:25 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Antifa thugs never took the stand to testify, they could not even bring themselves to cooperate with the authorities.


7 posted on 08/19/2019 7:58:01 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: eyeamok
Sounds like a Shoot First Attitude is warranted for Antifa terrorists

This is New York. You're not allowed to defend yourself there. That's why I'll never go there.

8 posted on 08/19/2019 7:59:19 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: CopperTop
For the Left self defense is a much worse crime than assault and battery. Violent people who attack others are considered to be prima facie mentally ill else they would not do such things, therefore they are not responsible for their violence.
Self defense is a rational act. It is engaged in rationally and the defender chooses to commit the violence of Defense and is therefore responsible for harming the mentally handicapped attacker and should be punished. I have heard this argument from highly educated people, one a biology professor at UF.
9 posted on 08/19/2019 8:00:04 PM PDT by arthurus (sfk)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
From the tapes I've seen- it's usually Auntie Faah wearing masks, beating people, and engaging in thuggery -i.e.Remember the reporter from a couple of weeks ago. They (AFA) attacked him. He wasn't doing anything to them.

Sounds like PB's were attacked?

Weird ruling.

Maybe they can appeal?

10 posted on 08/19/2019 8:01:25 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: DOC44

Self defense is illegal in New York.


11 posted on 08/19/2019 8:02:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: jimfree

This is the reason civil war is inevitable. Leftists own the courts and the government in general everywhere. They can commit assault and even murder and they will be let off the hook. When conservatives defend themselves we will end up in prison. At some point a bundy ranch type standoff will occur.


12 posted on 08/19/2019 8:02:54 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Funny how the proud boys and antifah are exactly the same thing, and the whole thing is staged by the globalists.


13 posted on 08/19/2019 8:10:24 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: arthurus

But the proud boys are leftists.


14 posted on 08/19/2019 8:11:19 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: precisionshootist

I have a hard time picturing a civil war when the poorest are the most likely to be obese.

Freegards


15 posted on 08/19/2019 8:12:23 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: reasonisfaith

Fascism always comes from the left.

White supremacy always comes from the left.


16 posted on 08/19/2019 8:12:26 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Meatspace

And, they get away with being called by their nicknames - not their real names - in the indictments???

WTH???


17 posted on 08/19/2019 8:14:44 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings f)
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To: Meatspace
The Antifa thugs never took the stand to testify, they could not even bring themselves to cooperate with the authorities.

The only authorities that Antifa recognizes are their paymasters.

They are trained to defy and resist legal authority.

18 posted on 08/19/2019 8:16:37 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Not even. Have you heard McGinnis talk? He has done interviews with several of the talk show hosts. These guys are our guys.


19 posted on 08/19/2019 8:16:50 PM PDT by arthurus (sfk0oOD)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Was this trial by jury? Really? Were they betrayed by a liberal lawyer?

THis is unbelievable. In SAn Francisco these little f@g juries let go of an illegal with a stolen gun murdering a chick, but here in NYC no reasonable doubt despite videos pointing the opposite?

Was this evidence allowed in?

Makes absolute no sense, other than someone rigged up the jury or it was a trial by judge.

I am sure there are grounds for appeals.


20 posted on 08/19/2019 8:19:33 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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